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Who's deer is this?

This should bring a firestorm, i'm out hunting with my older brother. It's about 40 minutes from official sunset and so he is already getting up from his spot and he pushes a little way towards me from the North going southbound to a fencerow and then goes east up the fence row and waits in the field.

I'm gonna end up doing the same thing but I get outta my stand inside the woods and walk Southwest bound towards the creek to try to push something up and then I was gonna cut back up the soutside of the woods I was in, eastbound. And the Southside of the woods is a grassy area the length of the woods from the creek to the field bc it's the area the powerlines run next to traintracks..so woods,grassy area (15 yards wide),then traintracks.

When i'm walking towards the creek I kicked something up and I hear it crashing away from me and I see its a buck crossing the creek into some thicket and I thought it was gone but it ended up going a few more yards up and then took a left eastbound to hop the creek back on my side again, (20yards away) it's at the top of a ridge and was broadside so I took a shot but it was still jumping, not good but I think I hit it in the back leg, it's walking thru the water and I had it dead to rights right behind the shoulder so I shot..and it's maybe 10 feet from a real thick 5 foot wide ditch that runs the train tracks eastbound. It goes in there and it's booking it thru it and it kicks a doe that scurries up the tracks.

The buck comes out maybe 40 yards no more away northbound and it's broadside the whole time but the first third of the grassy area I didn't wanna take the shot bc he was still jumping good and the 2nd third I was steadying my irons on it and I could see the blood pumping out of it like a siv from behind the shoulder so I aimed at about the shoulder and blam!! I take the shot, and then it's in the woods...this point I can't see it anymore bc it's thick.

But it's at the top quarter of the lenth of the woods where it entered in...call my brother bc i'm gonna say "hey, buck coming your way I got it good as dead!" phone still ringing but I put it in my pocket bc I wanted to cut back along the creek real fast in case I could see it, and as I'm walking fast I hear the phone go to voicemail ...so I'm yelling down at my pocket "yo! I just putt a hurting on a buck that things gonna die fast"... and then I hear blam, blam!

This is no more than 5 minutes from the first shot  and probably only a minute and a half from my last shot. From where it entered the woods and where it came out into the field is maybe 50 yards away. So I call him and he's like "I just got a buck and dropped it, it was bleeding all over the place you shot it's dick off!" When I get up there he's like "Yeah, it came thru the woods right at me and I dropped it"(neck shot). So I'm like telling him I had two broadside shots in it and I could see the blood gushing out of it..and was like "it's my deer." He says "No way, I dropped it!" Me: "Bro, that thing was gonna die in probably less than another 50 yards bc it was pumping blood out of it from two shots in its chest"... and a third, that my theory was right that I had hit it thru the hindquarter and blew his dick off. Lol.

Then he says "It would have kept running down to so and so's woods (500yards away) , and it would have been gone." Me:"Bulls*it, that thing would have died way before that." Him: "This is my first deer all year" so I start badgering him and talking smack bc I think it's bullshit bc had it been a doe it would have been a different story it's bc it's a buck with real thick mass and a good looking 8 pointer. And my bro always wants to be some sort of glorywhore. Bc he's already on the phone calling his buddy saying he got a buck with no mention of me pumping the first kill shots in it. I said "I'll let you clean it but it's my rack" Him "Yeah right, I dropped it that's how it works, you should have put him down" so i'm still saying that's bull bc it would have been dead in the field if he wasn't there and I would have tracked it thru the woods to the field and got it.

We all know most deer even with the best kill shots besides a heart can still go atleast another 100 yards. One buck, 4 holes, I shot three times he shot twice. He tried to say he hit it twice and dropped it, I try to say no I think you missed the first one and it was already 90% dead and when you hit it in the neck that's when it dropped and it was dead seconds later. So I'm annoyed as hell now thinking he's a jerkoff. Then we drive to some friends bc it's gotta get butchered and i'm pissed off and he's like you're being a baby that's how it works on public land, "Joe Blow got a deer taken from him , he shot it and it ran off and someone else shot it and said it was theirs." so I say" This isn't public land and keywords taken from him and you know that's my deer" anyway Whose deer is it? 

Yeah had my first shot and only shot that hit it been in the leg and then he dropped it then yeah sure it's your deer but I shot it first, I had lethal shots in it first, my only problem is that the deer had like 45 yards before it popped out on my brother. Lesson learned, hunt alone and or hunt a bigger woods so you have room for your kill to die.

I don't care to come here and hunt with anyone that's full of it like that. I live far out of state now and I won't be back hunting on family land anytime soon. Atleast not with this brother. On top of that he didn't even offer any meat. 

Dead to rights?..Dead but not my right to have it!

Who's deer is this? 

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No matter what happened and

No matter what happened and how many shots were taken it is whoever dropped the buck and whos tag is on the buck. 

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So if you're on a hunt out

So if you're on a hunt out west and you see an animal down below you in a Gulley and shoot it and hit it with a high powered rifle it's yours...until your buddy next to you shoots right after you and hits it also and drops it..then it's his? Sounds like glory hunting to me.

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Sounds like you don't like my

Sounds like you don't like my answer. 

But unless you make a agreement before you go hunting then it is all up in the air on who tags the animal. 

Out west here if I shoot a deer, or elk and he manages to get away far enough that a buddy of mine on the other side of the ridge ends up shooting him then he gets to tag the animal.  If my buddyis sitting with me then there is usually a agrement that the first one that has a kill shot gets the animal.  Everything isn't written down or in black and white.

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Haha, yeah I know, but this

Haha, yeah I know, but this is a deer that went no more than maybe 60 - 70 feet from my other kill shot. You're talkin maybe 5 silverado trucks. I'm all in agreement if your animal is going a pretty long ways away and you're not sure if you even got a good shot but not when you see blood pumping out of it already and it goes the lenth of a semi and a half and gets shot by someone else. Leave that nonsense to the public hunters.

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Kill Shot Means Dead Deer , NOT a bleeding deer running away

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Haha, yeah I know, but this is a deer that went no more than maybe 60 - 70 feet from my other kill shot. You're talkin maybe 5 silverado trucks. I'm all in agreement if your animal is going a pretty long ways away and you're not sure if you even got a good shot but not when you see blood pumping out of it already and it goes the lenth of a semi and a half and gets shot by someone else. Leave that nonsense to the public hunters.

 

 

Obviously your idea of a Kill shot is different than mine. For Me a Kill shot is a Done Deal..Bang Flop..The deer doesn't continue running for however far. A kill shot is just that KILLED DRT. I believe your Bro owns that deer. He KILLED it

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I wanna go hunting with you,

I wanna go hunting with you, because it sounds like every shot you have is in the heart or the head or a spine. Or maybe you hunt with a 30-06 and a high powered scope, no high powered rifle hunting around here and even the most ethical kill shot has to let the animal bleed out for the organs to shut down. Yeah my kill shot is definitely just behind the front shoulder center mass of the deer. I don't know what you must aim at...I guess the head. I just shot a deer the next day that DroppedRightThere that was quarter facing to me, but it was a neck shot and it sure as hell wasn't remotely close to dead. Good thing for sharp knives to cut throats. 

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Haha, yeah I know, but this

Haha, yeah I know, but this is a deer that went no more than maybe 60 - 70 feet from my other kill shot. You're talkin maybe 5 silverado trucks. I'm all in agreement if your animal is going a pretty long ways away and you're not sure if you even got a good shot but not when you see blood pumping out of it already and it goes the lenth of a semi and a half and gets shot by someone else. Leave that nonsense to the public hunters.

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Redneck - I was always told

Redneck - I was always told that the person who hit the deer with a "mortal" (killing) shot was the one who should receive the deer, even if someone else administered a "coup de' grace". I guess I differ from some of the other opinions here, since it sounds like they are saying that whoever gets their tag on the deer first owns it. Somehow, I see the possibility of sportsmanship taking a pretty big hit with that philosophy.

Having said that, however, from what you have said, and the way you have said it, it sounds to me like a much bigger problem is your relationship with your brother. I have no idea how old you are, but to have that level of rivalry going on that two brothers would be practically coming to blows over some meat and antlers is a sad situation, indeed.

I suggest that you both do some thinking about what really matters in life. When it's all said and done, family relationships are far too important to die at the altar of any sport - no matter how passionate you may be about it.

 

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