Grumpy, do you still need any info on the Savage?

Yes I do, I haven't bought anything yet. Thanks Boo

Hey Grumpy
I have only owned one muzzle loader before my savage. It was a white which was wonerful in all aspects other than the dreaded cleaning after using black powder or pryodex. Recoild was smart but moreover I hated cleaning it. I did not shoot any more until I bumped into the savage. WELL! I use smokeless and I have to clean it at the end of the season or maybe every two seasons. It is accurate. It has awsome power. It is very very light in recoil. No muss no fuss. its like having the perfect wife. Low maintenance and high performance. What else can a man ask for. A friend of mine shot with one shot a buck at 225 yards! We used a 300 grain bullet from precision rifle http://www.prbullet.com/. Now we are using the 260 grain 40 cal bullet (sabot). The 260 grain bullet is so mild recoiling its a trip.It feels to me like a light load in a 20 gauge shot gun. Its a great gun.
Please do not hesitate to email me directly for more info. [email protected].
Boo
PS:I forgot the new rifles have an great trigger called an accutrigger. Looks weird but no creap and breaks like a glass rod and adjustable to 2.5 lbs I think

I bought mine I think at Bagshaw sports (manitoba??) and I think SIR has them at a good price.

Thanks Boo! We don't have Bagshaws here, but SIR has them ranging from $535-$673 depending on the finishes

They are the real deal.... Clean, accurate, and worth the time working up a load...