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Location: wellsville,ny
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I know a lot of people who use pyrodex, pellets and flake, and swear by it, however I feel the tripple 7 is a cleaner, more consistent powder.

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Location: Montana
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Maine sorry took so long to respond been hunting :smile: We don't boil the gun parts to clean them but we do use boiling water the hot water dries fast on the metal parts leaving less moisture to rust. I shoot pyrodex and have no problems never have shot with triple 7 yet but do hear its good. I still use black powder F4 for my flash pan. See ya

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Location: Downeast, ME USA
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Hey guys thanks for all of the help.
Next year I think I will go for it. I can get an extra 2 weeks of deer hunting in.

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I own 2 blackpowder inlines with 209 primers. I have a Remington 700ml 50 cal with open sights that my 21 year old son uses(nice gun) And then there is my baby. My T/C Black Diamond (synthetic stock, stainless barrel, fiberoptic sights and a Bushnell elite 3200 1.5 -4.5 scope) I use 2 pyrodex 50 grain pellets in both guns with Hornady sabot 240 grain bullets. My T/C will group under an inch at 100 yards. It is hard to get my 243 rem 700 to do that!!

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Hey guys I am new and was just asking about these things, thanks for the info, first thing on my list to buy and try -- Windex, as when I hunt water is what you carry in and scarce, unless it is snowing. Anyway thanks, good info.

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Well I tried that Windex, and guess what, it works good, as good or better than the expensive stuff a person can buy to clean a muzzle loader, thanks to whoever for that one.

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Kgoody,
You wrote "Hodgdon's triple 7, ... a nitrocellulose base, same as smokeless, therefore, conventional powder solvents will disolve the residue"

Triple 7 is NOT nitrocellulose based to quote Hodgdon:
"There is no nitrocellulose or nitroglycerin in Triple Seven. It is a Pyrotechnic mixture just like black powder or Pyrodex."

I emailed Hodgdon specifically because of what you wrote. While it is true that Triple 7 is much less corrosive than Pyrodex and BP, and traditional smokeless solvents can be use for clean up, the Nitrocellulose based statement is cause for concern for two big reasons:
1- Many states specifically prohibat Nitrocellulose based powders from being used for muzzleloader hunting. You are doing Hodgdon a major disservice if you tell people that T7 is nitrocellulose based.
2-Because smokeless powder is nitrocellulose based, I would hate to think someone would read your post, and assume that you can use nitrocellulose-based powders in a muzzleloader, and end up blowing up their gun and hurting themselves.

So to clarify:
Triple 7 does NOT contain nitrocellulose, and NEVER use nitrocellulose based (smokeless) powders in a Muzzleloader.

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I learned along time ago that just plain Isopropyl alcohol works fine to clean your rifle. It evaporates quickley, it is good to clean between shots with. Windex has Ammonia in it and will rust your gun. Old Snow

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I do hate to sound stupid but i guess its the only way i can learn. I guess, due to the black powder composition a residue builds up. Is this in the pan or inside the barrel or both? Are people recomending that you take alcohol or windex or something along in the field when you go deer-hunting?
Kenny

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Location: Georgia
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This is my first post on this forum and what better place to start than with blackpowder. This section definitely needs some more action.
I do not own an inline. I own a .54 caplock and a .54 flintlock. I took my first muzzleloader deer with the caplock and roundball back in 1976. I have shot pyrodex in the past but now I only shoot the real thing; Blackpowder. I shoot either 2fg or 3fg in the caplock. I have tested both in the flinter but I pretty much stick to 3fg. I use mainly 4fg for priming, but if it is exptremely humid and I am sweating a lot then I will use 3fg.
I only shoot a patched roundball.
If I need a bullet of some sort with longer range, then I leave the smokepole at home and take my .300 Win mag or 7mm Rem. or one of the other modern scoped guns in my case.

I clean only with water of some sort, or spit. On the range I will wet a patch from a canteen for a quick clean. If a canteen is not available then I chew a patch until it is wet and use that. When I get home I clean with Hot, Soapy water. I have found nothing that cleans blackpowder residue better than plain old water.
I use alcohol on only a couple of occasions. I will use it before a hunt to clean both my pan and frizzen, and also the edge of my flint. The alcohol will take all human oil off those surfaces and help give a better spark. I will also run a dry patch through the bore followed by an alcohol patch. This is done to remove any trace of oil before final loading.

The round ball in .54 has proven to be very effective on whitetailed deer. The largest animal I have ever taken with the roundball was a boar of about 350 pounds.
I am curious to hear of anyone hunting Elk with the roundball and how it performs.