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savage99 · Buck Master Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 52

Dan Cooper has donated to Obama.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/p.....oney_N.htm

SoCoKHntr

expatriate · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:26 pm Post subject:

Why would I slander him? You see, I'm conservative. I don't go out and destroy people's lives on a personal level because I disagree wth heir politics. Were the tables turned, people would be digging up all kinds of dirt on him, going through state databases, tearing him apart in the media, etc.

That ain't going to happen from the right, because we actually respect a person's rights to believe what they want to.

But that doesn't mean I have to buy his products anymore. Same reason Smith & Wesson sales tanked after they cut a deal with the anti-gunners, and why they took off again after they backed out of it.

If he wants to crap where he eats, that's his business. But the future of Cooper Arms is now a matter of Darwinian selection. If I was a stockholder, I'd be ticked.

civetcat · Sportsman Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 723

Sounds like a smart move to me. Montana is turning blue, just went Dem with a Gov and a Senator. Might tip blue for prez.

Seen that cowboy running for Wyoming's one congressiona seat? Just picked up a good endorsement from the governor. Heck looks like Alaska is going to have a new senator, that other fellow can run but not vote for himself as a convicted felon.

I disagree about Dems and Repubs and slander. Look at Ombam's, McCains's and the GOP web sites. The Repubs and McCain say nothing about McCain, only bad stuff not true about Obama. Obama's site is all policy, all positive, nothing about McCain at all. Fox News has become a 24/7 anti obama network. We are in for a full week of Rove/Atwater campaigning versus six figure crowds.

Good for Cooper.

redrider · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:22 pm Post subject:

Looks like they either changed their minds real quick or it never happened.

http://www.cooperfirearms.com/

bitmasher · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:03 pm Post subject:

Good info, redrider!

expatriate · Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 11:25 pm Post subject:

Funny thing about Uncle Ted (Stevens), isn't it? He tried to get the trial held in Alaska so he could be judged by his peers, and they told him he had to be tried in D.C. by what could be the nation's most liberal jury pool (what can you say about a city that elected a guy AFTER the video of him smoking crack?).

Then there's the FBI "raid" on his house where the Anchorage media was tipped off be sure they got footage of them breaking in with a locksmith, but wouldn't call Stevens' staff for a key. Wait a minute...isn't Begich mayor of Anchorage and didn't the Anchorage Daily News endorse Obama? If that wasn't enough, the whole thing's timed so that incriminating evidence was released to the public immediately AFTER the primary, and the verdict is announced a week before the election.

The verdict's in, but the paperwork seems a bit slimy.

He may be done, and then again he may not. Alaska now has a choice -- support a Democrat that's taken a lot of MoveOn money who will be a junior senator seeking scraps from Senate leaders devoted to stopping oil development, supporting environmentalists that would adversely affect mining, timber, and fishing industries -- not to mention rabid with commitment to spending the next couple years doing everything possible to destroy Sarah Palin so she's never heard from again.

On the other hand, they can support a felon who's done amazing things to develop Alaska over the decades and who always puts the state first. And by the way, there's nothing that says a convicted felon can't serve in the Senate.

That's actually a tough decision for a lot of folks up here -- support someone that seems honest but will likely roll over and let the state go under the bus, or an unquestioningly loyal Alaskan who got his hand caught in the cookie jar. We'll have to see what happens on the 4th.

SoCoKHntr · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 8:34 am Post subject:

expatriate · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:50 am Post subject:

SoCo, stop projecting your own view of the world on me.

You got a lot of nerve accusing me of me taking things "lock, stock, and barrel" without deviation when I, unike you, demonstrated willingness to think critically of the people I support.

I repeat my challenge from earlier posts -- put your money where your mouth is and say a single thing critical of Obama -- a single point of doctrine or act that you disagree with.

You won't do it. You can't do it because you're either on the payroll or so consumed by the cult you've lost your own identity and ability for independent thought.

SoCoKHntr · Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2008 11:23 am Post subject:

expatriate · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 8:26 am Post subject:

civetcat · Sportsman Joined: 29 Jul 2008 Posts: 723

About Cooper.

Two seconds on Google suggests he donated in the primaries and again in the general. He resigned or was fired, or that's what I read. Typical of rabid wing nuts, can't abide someone having an opinion other than thier own. The over the top reaction of people who just because they disagree with someones politics wish to also destroy their business. Of course Cooper is thinking of all the people who work for him, wants to protect the jobs and livelihoods that those Montanans depend on. Who says Republicans don't "destroy people's lives on a personal level because I disagree wth heir politics".

Does Cooper still like making fine rifles? Are his rifles as good as they were yesterday? Is Obama a far more qualified candidate in all respects to be President of the United States? Yes to all three.

I repeat my challenge from earlier posts.../ and say a single thing critical of Obama -- a single point of doctrine or act that you disagree with

Health care should be universal.

His early stance on Social Security wasn't well thought out, reflected typical view of Washintonians who wanted to sound "serious" about SS. Never asked a real mathemetician to look at things, or an economist. It is absolutely sound and funded through at least 46 without any changes at all, perhaps with luck and a growing number of workers far beyond that.

CVC · Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:45 pm Post subject:

I was prepared to call Cooper Arms to let them know that I will not purchase another Cooper firearm, but then I saw Redriders post.

A person has a right to donate to whomever they want and I have a right to do business with anyone I want.

SoCoKHntr · Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 8:22 am Post subject:

To bad they fired him. Had they stood by him I would have strongly considered or felt an obligation to purchase one of their rifles. That they fired him over this ensures I will never buy one of their rifles.

savage99 · Buck Master Joined: 13 Sep 2008 Posts: 52