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AlphaMan
Joined: 13 Jun 2005
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Location: Deer Woods
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: 380 ACP |
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| JUST BOUGHT A NEW HI POINT .380 ACP. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY INPUT ON GUN OR CALIBER |
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remington
Joined: 30 Nov 2005
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Location: Misouri
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| Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Not to burt your bubble or to hurt your feelings but I wouldn't stake my life on a high point. They are cheap and commonly known as "drive by" guns in my line of work. If yours is is reliable concider yourself lucky. The 380 is ok tho. You can sure do better. Best of luck., |
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147 Grain
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
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Location: Utah
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:03 am Post subject: |
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FYI:
While High Point may not be a top-of-the-line firearm, their customer service is outstanding and reports from those who own their products are favorable on the side of reliability.
I have never owned a High Point but know many who do and they say it's hard to beat their lifetime warranty.
As for any self defense weapon, ensuring it functions reliably with your prefered ammo is paramount. Reports on various forums across the country state that High Points feed all types of ammo.
If you can afford a higher quality firearm, I suggest you consider other brands, but if $125 is all you've got, then go ahead with your purchase. |
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147 Grain
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Location: Utah
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| Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: |
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P.S.:
The 380 doesn't penetrate very well for self defense and I strongly suggest you consider FMJ ammo. Recoil in High Points is minimal and a 9mm would be very easy to handle with quick followup shots.
Good luck with your pistol and let us know how it shoots. |
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AlphaMan
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| Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:18 am Post subject: |
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| My brother has a .45 acp in hi point and it jams occasionally, but I always related the jamming to the large caliber bullet. He had a .380 like i have and it never jammed thats why I purchased mine. I have shot about two magazines from my gun with no jamming. The day it jams on me is the day I replace it. |
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remington
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| Posted: Sun Mar 19, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Take it out and shoot a few boxes thru it. get it nice and warm and see if it breaks in. Cor-bon makes a very good defensive round for the 380. Again, not trying to be mean or nasty. |
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AlphaMan
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| Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 1:29 pm Post subject: |
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I may have to look into getting some corbon ammo. I looked at there web site and I like there products.
I shot a whole box of bullets this past weekend and the baby didnt jam. I was very pleased. And I was shooting pretty rapidly. |
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expatriate
Joined: 26 Oct 2002
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Location: Alaska
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| Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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I've seen High Points, but have never fired one or examined it closely. IMO a handgun is an insurance policy, and personally I'd rather not stake my life on the cheapest thing I can buy. Dead owners don't file warranty claims.
Nevertheless, I've been tempted to buy one because you can't argue with the price. But when the rubber meets the road, I'll carry my Glock. |
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AlphaMan
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| Posted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| expatriate you said a mouth full, I want a glock so bad. M ybrother is not a glock fan but I most certainly am. I want me one of those real small palm size glocks in ,40cal. My next handgun will be one. I bought my Hi point from a gun show here in my home state and i was not going to let the offer pass me by. Besides I didnt have a handgun any way. The only hand gun I had was a 44mag with a 6 1/2 in barrel that I gave to my father. |
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expatriate
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 12:37 am Post subject: |
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AlphaMan:
I definitely love my Glock. I've got a Glock 27 that I use as my primary concealed carry weapon and it's great. It's a nice tight little package that points instinctively, doesn't snag, and is a joy to shoot. It's never jammed on me, either.
If you do get something small like the 26 or 27, I recommend a finger extension floorplate for at least one magazine. The compact models don't have a place to put your pinky, and the extension does wonders for your grip without adding much bulk. It's easily changed out for a flat magazine if you need maximum concealability, though.
Back on topic, I gave my wife a Taurus .380 a few years ago. It's a great little gun, and a .380 is a very controllable round to shoot. It's basically a 9mm short; some might claim its anemic, but I'd argue that a shooter that's recoil shy could do more damage with a .380 than a .40 or .45. |
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147 Grain
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Location: Utah
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| Posted: Wed Mar 22, 2006 7:57 am Post subject: |
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I agree that the Baby Glocks need the extended magazine for the little pinky finger for better control and comfort.
Also, concerning the more expensive Corbon ammo, they use fast burning powders that produce more recoil and muzzle flash than most ammo out there. I.E. 9mm is very snappy and recoils like a 40 S&W or 185-gr. 45 ACP and etc...
Corbon is a hoot to shoot, but the louder bark and snappy recoil you feel is deceptive and NOT reflected in improved performance downrange.
Most of their bullets are light for caliber and made by Sierra - meaning the lightweight bullets expand very quickly and typically only have 60% to 70% of the penetration of their competitors.
Since controllability (from slower / medium burning powders), shot placement, and penetration are the highest priorities, I suggest other brands besides Corbon for self defense. |
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RRIES
Joined: 01 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject: not a bad little gun not a glock but not bad |
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I have a PPK and a high point. The high point sure kicks less. I can't tell the dif in accuracy. Probably me. Having a little 380 is certainly nicer than a big glock/1911/HnK/ python back in the truck. This is where the high point's nitch is. Easy to carry. There are many products out there at affordable prices which work fine. If you have to walk the beat carry a badge everyone would want a glock/HnK/1911etc and happy to pay the large amount. Not many people will throw a 900$ pistol into a tackle box or a tool box in a tractor, but a high point sure. Again easy access.
As far as a throw away gun good point. I shot a pit bull trying to bite/attack 2 girls. I went to the car came back and shot it. Policeman even thanked me. Kimber is gone and I am unsure when it will be back. There were no laws broken by me and no charges against me. One more thing to ponder in this free society. ::-k |
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RRIES
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| Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject: not a bad little gun not a glock but not bad |
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I have a PPK and a high point. The high point sure kicks less. I can't tell the dif in accuracy. Probably me. Having a little 380 is certainly nicer than a big glock/1911/HnK/ python back in the truck. This is where the high point's nitch is. Easy to carry. There are many products out there at affordable prices which work fine. If you have to walk the beat carry a badge everyone would want a glock/HnK/1911etc and happy to pay the large amount. Not many people will throw a 900$ pistol into a tackle box or a tool box in a tractor, but a high point sure. Again easy access.
As far as a throw away gun good point. I shot a pit bull trying to bite/attack 2 girls. I went to the car came back and shot it. Policeman even thanked me. Kimber is gone and I am unsure when it will be back. There were no laws broken by me and no charges against me. One more thing to ponder in this free society. ::-k |
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bitmasher
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| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:27 am Post subject: Re: not a bad little gun not a glock but not bad |
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RRIES wrote: As far as a throw away gun good point.
Precisely. People should consider this when purchasing a defensive gun although it is rarely brought up.
High points are not beautiful; however in my experience they get an a+ for reliability. They used to be called Haskel and I think they should be commended for delivering an economical reliable defensive handgun. Sure the second amendment is great, but if people who really need it (think grandma in the ghetto) can't afford a glock/kimber/kahr/s&w/blah...blah what good is the second amendment????
Kel Tec is another manufacture to consider.
Doubt I'd want a high point for a carry gun though just because of size and weight.
In the same price range is a used S&W J Frame, histories favorite for concealed handguns.... |
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147 Grain
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Location: Utah
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| Posted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: |
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Bitmaster:
Well said! |
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