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drum002



Joined: 23 Jan 2005
Posts: 36
Location: Raleigh, NC

Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:57 pm    Post subject: Scopes magnifications for deer hunting  

If I knew how to set up a survey, I would. So I just want to ask what you all think.
I currently use a Full field II 3-9x40 on my 270, and a Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40 on my 30-06, but have noticed a trend that many whitetail hunters are moving to higher magnifications. It seems that the more or less standard 3-9x40 is being replaced by the 4(or 4.5)-16x40 (or 50).

With that said, what do you all hunt with for most of your whitetail needs?

Thanks for replying,
John-
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alsatian



Joined: 18 Jun 2004
Posts: 64

Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 11:52 am    Post subject:  

I use 3.5-10x scopes on my .243, .25-06, and .30-06 rifles. I don't see any need to go higher than this and think it is a mistake on a general purpose hunting rifle to go higher than this. A case could be made that a general purpose scope ought to have a lower range than that I have -- for example 2.5-7x. I would be surprised if in fact any general trend existed to move to higher power scopes, such as having 14x on the high end.

I have read that high magnification scopes have traditionally been used on lower power rifles -- such as .223 or heavy varmint rifles such as .243 or .25-06 -- and may not be engineered to handle major recoil such as from a .300 Win Mag or .338 Win Mag. Thus, if one put a high power scope -- a 4.5-14x variable for example -- on a .338 Win Mag, they may find that the heavy recoil shakes the reticle lose. This is just a story I have heard. Maybe this is no longer a likely scenario, but it is something to think about.

To obtain good brightness, a scope needs a larger objective lens in higher magnification powers. The larger objective lens places the line of sight higher above the barrel which may have a minor effect on sighting mechanics but more importantly may interfere with natural eye alignment with the scope. When you place your face on your rifle's check piece or butt, your eye should naturally line up with the scope.
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drum002



Joined: 23 Jan 2005
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Location: Raleigh, NC

Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 8:26 am    Post subject:  

I have never found a need for anything higher than about a 7x magnification. Very occasionally I will turn it to 8x-9x, but like I said, that's pretty rare. I hunted with a friend of mine's Remington 700 BDL 300 wsm that was topped with a Buckmasters 4.5x14-50. The scope was nice and bright, but it felt too bulky with the larger eye objective. I was white tail hunting and never had a chance to shoot it that day, but like I said it felt bulky, and you're right with the mount pacement. When looking through the scope, I felt like my head was being lifted off of the gun some what.

With many of the mgnum powered rifles and the use of higher powered scopes, I'm worried that inexperienced hunters will be taking longer range shots than they have no business taking. A long shot is still a long shot. It still takes skill to close in on your quarry. That's just my 2 cents. :)
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fuzzybear



Joined: 31 Mar 2004
Posts: 1350
Location: Bend, Oregon

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 4:12 pm    Post subject:  

2x-7x 32, 4x 32 and 1x-4x 32. All with good glass. Anything else is a waste of money on a deer rifle.
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Captain_Obvious



Joined: 21 Aug 2003
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Location: Missouri/Arkansas

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject:  

I am pretty much partial to 3X9 Burris with ballistic plex. Thing I like best is the clarity of this scope. My friend's Leupold VarixIII is a good scope, it filters light pretty well and has a good field of view and what-not, but when we're doing like 100-yard sight-in or testing with our rifles, you can't see the holes in the targets with the Leupold. With the Burris, the holes in the targets are plainly visible.
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fuzzybear



Joined: 31 Mar 2004
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Location: Bend, Oregon

Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject:  

Burris makes some very nice scopes. I've got a 3x-9x 40 on a long barreled 270wsm coyote/pest rifle. Very clear lenses. Works great for early morning and late evening. For me, it's too much scope to carry around for deer hunting.
I've got the 2x-7x on a 300wsm. The 4x on a synthetic 30-06 and the 1x-4x on a short barreled 308. All Leupolds with great glass.
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Cut-um



Joined: 14 May 2005
Posts: 2
Location: New Orleans, Louisiana

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 10:13 pm    Post subject:  

I don't think most guys changing scopes are going to bigger powers but rather are changing for better glass for clarity and bigger objectives to gather more light. I just recently swapped out my Leopold 3X9X40mm for a Zeiss 3.5X10X50mm on my 30-06 and my shooting ranges never changed, clarity and light gathering were my reason for change. I might also add that my old scope was almost twenty years old so I don't offend my Leopold friends... :lol:
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bnow0707



Joined: 25 Aug 2003
Posts: 638
Location: Alabama

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2005 7:52 pm    Post subject:  

I use a Leupold 3.5-10x50 VariX-III. I like it b/c it's real clear, good at light gathering, and reasonably priced.
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nw_ok_hunting



Joined: 02 Nov 2005
Posts: 58
Location: Oklahoma

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:16 am    Post subject:  

I use a 4-12x50 leupold on a 270 I like being able to zoom in there for long shots and out for walking brush and canyons. However alot of people either need one or the other where they hunt. I need both.
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saskie



Joined: 23 Dec 2002
Posts: 933
Location: West Carleton, Ottawa, Canada

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 1:51 pm    Post subject:  

3-9 X 40 for me.
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federali



Joined: 21 Nov 2005
Posts: 19

Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 3:45 pm    Post subject: Low end variables are best  

All my rifles and my one rifled shotgun wear 1.5-5X scopes. The low end variable is ideal for eastern woods hunting as they give you a wide field of view and it's easier to shoot with both eyes open---a real plus while targeting a moving deer through brush.

The advantage of the scope is not magnification but rather having a single sighting plane---no front and rear sight and target to align.

I have three Leopolds, one Pentax Lightseeker and maybe two redfield low end variables. The largest scope I own is a 2-7X.
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RUGERM77



Joined: 07 Jul 2005
Posts: 57
Location: VERMONT

Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject:  

I use a 3x9x40 on my 30.06, no need for more, ussually run it on 4x, magn. the woods to much if used on higher power. Just my 2cnts worth.
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chechatonga



Joined: 15 Nov 2002
Posts: 146

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject:  

When shooting at a deer in Ohio -a shotgun or pistol only state -
I use 1.5x4 and leave it on 1.5. When the deer are running it picks them up fast and allows me to hit them. When they are still it still is enough to get it done.
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chechatonga



Joined: 15 Nov 2002
Posts: 146

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 3:09 pm    Post subject:  

When shooting at a deer in Ohio -a shotgun or pistol only state -
I use 1.5x4 and leave it on 1.5. When the deer are running it picks them up fast and allows me to hit them. When they are still it still is enough to get it done.
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hunter777



Joined: 28 Oct 2003
Posts: 1475

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2005 12:53 am    Post subject:  

Fixed 4 power on shotgun and rifle. Not going to be in a situation where the deer is there at 40yds and running and go to put the gun on him and can't find him because the scope is cranked up to 9 again! Changed them both to fixed 4's after that happend 2 seasons in a row.
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