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Littman



Joined: 28 Apr 2003
Posts: 24
Location: Fairfield, CT

Posted: Sat May 03, 2003 10:07 pm    Post subject:  

Just asking....whcih do you prefer as the all American Game blackpowder caliber 50 or 54..PC
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gunslinger338



Joined: 20 Jul 2002
Posts: 117
Location: Montana

Posted: Sun May 04, 2003 8:44 am    Post subject:  

I shoot 50 cal. Mostly because everybody I know also shoots 50 cal. I just kind of joined the crowd :smile: But it does shoot well.
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donmillion



Joined: 27 Feb 2003
Posts: 394
Location: Colorado

Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 10:44 am    Post subject:  

I think .50 caliber is probably a good compromise, but really, I don't think there is such a thing as one "all around" caliber.

If you're hunting whitetails in Florida, then .50 caliber is bigger than you really need. It's not "overkill," but a .45 would be plenty.

On the other hand, if you're hunting elk in the Rocky Mountains, .50 is going to be the minimum that you really want. Personally, I use a .54 for that kind of hunting and don't think it's any too big.
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Rick



Joined: 04 May 2003
Posts: 33
Location: Arkansas

Posted: Mon May 05, 2003 10:13 pm    Post subject:  

I shoot a 54 cal and make my own bullets, since finding them in the box can prove difficult. I guess the new styles of copper-jacketed rounds allow some expansion, but since a muzzleloader round doesn't carry the same energy as a centerfire rifle, I prefer a larger hole to allow for greater tissue damage and bleed-out.
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rkensparc



Joined: 22 Apr 2003
Posts: 19

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 8:53 am    Post subject:  

I think in general the .50 is all around ML caliber. It is by far the most popular so your opitions in guns and bullets are greater in .50s than the other calibers.
A .50 works great on deer, and is still big enough to use on Elk.

Now if you are a speed freak go with a .45 and you'll get higher velocities, but I think a .45 is a bit small for Elk.

I have a .54 and love it for use on Muleys and Elk, some would say it is too big for whitetails. Defineately more than you need for whitetails, but perfectly acceptable. Choices in guns and projectiles are more limited than with the .50s

But the best solution is one of each :smile:


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azbiggame



Joined: 25 May 2003
Posts: 22
Location: Henderson,Nv.

Posted: Sat May 31, 2003 12:37 pm    Post subject:  

Run with a "Crowd" out West and ALL use a .50cal.and know many others in other states that hunt with "smokepoles"and only one uses a .54cal.Here on the "Left Coast"got to believe most prefer .50's for ALL Big Game.With .45 cal sabots,where legal to Large .50cal. conicals from todays Inlines not much YOU can't take,when in range with a .50cal.Good Huntin in 2003---
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Lawrence Honeytoast



Joined: 19 Jun 2003
Posts: 1

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2003 1:15 pm    Post subject:  

I prefer 50 caliber because you can use it on a lot of different game. Plus I don't know anyone who has had a 54 and kept it.

sincerely your bud
Lawrence Honeytoast
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dino



Joined: 04 Jun 2003
Posts: 13

Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2003 2:46 pm    Post subject:  

I shoot a 50. I use barnes expander-mz in a 300 gr. and it knocks over anything that gets hit with it. I look at Jim Shockey. he has killed every game animal on the north american continent with a knight 50 cal. and 300 gr. nosler. I think that shows just how deadly that a fifty really is. from polar bear to moose to big elk he has dropped them all with a fifty cal.
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Darkhorse



Joined: 13 Aug 2003
Posts: 29
Location: Georgia

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2003 12:43 pm    Post subject:  

I shoot the .54 roundball for all my big game hunting. I have 2 .54's. I bought the first one in 1976 and not only did I keep it I also bought another one.
If shooting the roundball then you need it to be as large and heavy as possible. I do not believe there is a projectile that is "overkill" or "too big" when making a one shot kill on a living animal. I respect my prey far too much to make that assumption. There is no such thing as "Light tackle hunting". That only applies to fishing and hunting is not catch and release.

Along the way I shot competition with the .54 for years. I have enough trophys to prove the accuracy of the caliber. I also did a fair amount of small game hunting. Here though, the smaller is better attitude has merit. With a .36 you can shoot at a squirrels body. With a .54, it is either a head shot or no meat is left.
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cuttplug



Joined: 11 Aug 2003
Posts: 19

Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2003 7:27 pm    Post subject:  

I prefer the 50 cal myself, although I bought my son a 54 cal and just fell in love it, I think it's just the way the gun feels when I throw it up. I will still use my 50 during hunting season because that is what I am most comfortable with.
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propredator



Joined: 26 Aug 2003
Posts: 3

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:41 pm    Post subject:  

Hey ya all,i like the 50 for shooting the sabots out of my knight and the 54 for roundballs out of my lyman gpr.
Im not new to muzzle loading but both of these guns were bought in the last half year and have not been used on any thing but paper yet.
Got em both ready and waiting for shotgun and muzzle loading seasons.
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captchee



Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 138
Location: Idaho

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 9:26 pm    Post subject:  

I have two 50's but my favorite by far is my 54 long gun in flint and I will keep it as well.
I also mold my own round balls as well as maxie, s in 436 grain
I hunt elk, deer and bear with her in winter and summer. She also targets well with lighter loads
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Big Bore 54



Joined: 20 Sep 2003
Posts: 24
Location: Nine Mile Falls Wash.

Posted: Sun Sep 21, 2003 11:23 pm    Post subject:  

More BP hunters probably shoot the 50, I prefer the 54 only because I started out with a 54 Lymans plains pistol and I don't like to mix my balls up [no pun intended ] The 54 has more kenetic energy and better penetration. The 50 is OK and would do you well. What kills the animal is accuracy and shot placement. with that being said either calliber will do the job.
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shieldingarrow



Joined: 24 Sep 2003
Posts: 28
Location: Southern Indiana

Posted: Fri Oct 03, 2003 6:11 am    Post subject:  

I use a 50 cal for hunting in my home state for deer, but also use a 54 cal for early elk hunting. I like the heavy traditional bullets available for the 54 cal.
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Hawken .54



Joined: 24 Nov 2003
Posts: 3
Location: Michigan

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2003 8:03 am    Post subject:  

First off, great forum! My brother shoots a .50 hawken. Considering we are very competitive I had to purchase the same rifle in .54 Cal. I see it as 6 one way half dozen the other when it comes to the white tail deer/black bear. I am know the .50 round ball will take an elk, its all about placemnet. Its just I feel a little more comfortable putting a larger pill through the good stuff. I have exclusively shot the .535 round ball and love it. Good weight, velocity and great accuracy. My next couple of purchases will be the Lyman GPR in .54(FL) and their GPH in .54 (CL) Well, good day to all and happy hunting.

Hawken .54
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