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bitmasher · Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 2547 Location: Colorado

http://www.politico.com/blogs/.....gaffe.html

I'm not sure what is funnier: the ad, the reaction to the ad, or the fact that Hillary is poking at Obama's gun record.

expatriate · Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Posts: 1029 Location: Alaska

Hey, it was late, she was tired...

So this is a nonexistent European sniper rifle -- obviously the same one used against her in Bosnia.

This illustrates just one of the many issues I hold against the Dems -- the utter shamelessness of lying to voters about where they stand, counting on an electorate too ignorant to check into facts. These people think facts don't matter...it's what people believe that counts. Therefore, truth can be created or destroyed by manipulating beliefs and facts don't matter. If a poll said voters thought the moon was populated with flying monkeys, the Dems would be saying we need to declare them an endangered species and stop Republican plans to mine the moon.

Oh, by the way, the Clinton answer to criticism on this will be that it's just a stupid picture used for a mailing -- there are more important issues facing the nation and we're foolish to care about it. You hear this a lot -- it doesn't matter if the facts are true; it's the idea that counts.

I say it again...should someone who can't get stuff like this right be trusted with our foreign policy, military power, and economy?

bitmasher · Joined: 27 Feb 2002 Posts: 2547 Location: Colorado

Yup that was the Bosnia gun, because as the Navy Arms president says in the article "The gun in the photo does not exist".

cowgal · Joined: 10 Mar 2002 Posts: 850 Location: Colorado

Ha ha! This is hysterical. :laugh:

dtlwheels · Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 49

just wondering, where does obama stand on guns? he`s anti, right? i dont think the article said and i have not seen the mailing

expatriate · Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Posts: 1029 Location: Alaska

Don't ask Obama about it, 'cause he'll tell you he's a strong supporter of gun rights. Look up his voting record -- that says it all. He's anti with a capital "A."

dtlwheels · Joined: 12 Mar 2008 Posts: 49

expatriate wrote: Don't ask Obama about it, 'cause he'll tell you he's a strong supporter of gun rights. Look up his voting record -- that says it all. He's anti with a capital "A."

i think any candidate will say whatever you want to hear as long as they think you will vote for them.

WesternHunter · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 644 Location: Western USA

It's not just the Dems, Giulliani pulled the same crap in front of the NRA at a speech they invited the candidates to speak on reagrding their stance on guns. That makes me even more sick. At least the Dems make it clear where they stand the vast majority of the time. I can't believe that Giulliani pulled that imposter stuff in front of the NRA.