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bitmasher



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Posted: Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Anti-Western protests in China  

Apparently the Chinese don't like human rights and don't like others (i.e. anyone western) pointing out their lack of rights.

http://ap.google.com/article/A.....gD905K0500
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Romey



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:25 pm    Post subject:  

I suspect like the Iranian "antiwestern protests" much of things like this is state sponsored
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bitmasher



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:43 pm    Post subject:  

Perhaps. However it seems over the years that Chinese nationalism is powerful and growing. There is evidence that this most recent spate is not "state controlled".

http://online.wsj.com/article/.....38787.html
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expatriate



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Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:17 pm    Post subject:  

I'm not buying it. Obviously, they're protesting for the sake of the western media, who will think it somehow represents the sentiment among rank and file Chinese. The Chinese government could care less what its population thinks.

Conversely, the populace doesn't think the government needs their help to carry their country's message.

But perhaps most interesting was this quote, from someone protesting outside of a French store:

"We do not support a boycott of French companies because the economy is globalizing. We chose Carrefour front doors only because we draw more attention there."

Hardly the type of thing you hear from protestors. In a nutshell, we want to protest in such a way to attract the western media, but we realize our growing national power hinges on our foreign trade surplus -- so we want to make sure everyone understands that we're upset with them, but don't want them to stop buying our products. That's not a spontaneous comment from a protestor -- that's a canned statement given to someone to deliver to the media. There's no way China would allow an un-vetted nationalistic message to go in front of a camera.

I'm with Romey -- this was centrally planned and executed. We're seeing more and more of this type of thing around the world, because they realize that Americans will view the protests through American lenses -- so the protests look very American, have consistent messages throughout the crowd or across multiple simultaneous protests, and they use English signs.
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Romey



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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:19 am    Post subject:  

When you have a large crowd of signs in english or a large crowd of people a million people burning the US flag, i.e. a not so long ago recent even of over a million people in Iran, Those flags just arent sold on street corners and we have no embassy to take them from in Iran. Most chinese DONT speak english much less write it or care! Its completely contrived to make weaker americans and especially other countries say " Awe see how bad the US is, give us a trade break becuase the US is so mean to us, not like we roll over our own chinese people with tanks or anything like that, we are holding the olympics to show how good we are :cry: "
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Whelland



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Posted: Fri Apr 25, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject:  

I agree with Romey and expatriate. This was completely contrived by the Chinese government. This was a ploy to make all of the bleeding heart liberal's here in the U.S.A. worry about how they might have offended all of those poor Chinese people.

We could end up with protesters protesting the fact that they protested. I'm certain that you'll at least see some politicians apologizing to the Chinese government for offending their government and their people.
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