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[jigman]

Oh I forgot, sometimes a larger hole will make em deader....and also deader quicker.

[Captain_Obvious]

Any difference in the wound channel between a 7mm Magnum 160 grain bullet and a 300 Magnum 180 is insignificant. Some folks make it a bigger deal than it actually is due to their own personal biases.

Felt recoil in most 7mm Remington Magnum rifles, with a few exceptions, is pretty much identical to that of a 30-06. A 300 Winchester Magnum recoils with about 35 percent more energy. In the recoil arena, the 7mm Remington Magnum is the smarter choice.

[nevadahntr]

the fact that the rifle can throw a hevier bullet does not make it superior as an elk cartridge,how big a hole do you need through an elks heart or shoulder or spine or lungs to kill them,I know from lots of exsperience that a 7mm hole will kill them real quik.not saying its superior in any way just not inferior in any way,a small amopunt of "knockdown power" atv the end of a shot dont make enough difference to call it superior.

[Captain_Obvious]

Some of the 160 grain factory loads edge the 300 Win. Mag 180's at 300 and 400 yards. Too many folks only compare muzzle velocities/energies. Not too many big game animals are shot right at the muzzle.

[nevadahntr]

rgr that Captian my accubond 160s are movin fast enough to scare em to death!!lol ::neener:

[jigman]

And, they would need to edge the 300's 180's to inflict comparable damage and energy.
capn, if you took the 7mm and put it on 5 LB configuration, then took the 300WM and put it on a 12 LB gunn configuration would ther be a difference in felt recoil.....or even generated recoil?

[Captain_Obvious]

No they do not. They need only to equal the energy, in ft-lbs, at the same distance, this being due to their greater sectional density. In other words, there is no practical difference in killing power between the two cartridges unless the heaviest bullets for their given calibers are applied.

In two normal magnum rifles of equal weight and barrel length, the 300 Winchester Magnum develops substantially more recoil.

[jigman]

Thanks agian Capn-i love this site. I either confirm what I already know or learn something ever time I enjoy this site. My point with the recoil question was ...well....no pun intended, obvious. And you answered it in an eloquent but guarded way i could tell. I just think there are alot of variables with respect to recoil physics to be considered . That must be why my eexperience with the 7mm/300 WM went as it did. The rifles had to be of different weights _even though I would bet (I will research) the weights are pretty close with the Finnbear and the model 70. things that make you go hmmmm.