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Johnftwobucks
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 15
Location: Woodstock,Illinois
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| Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Ontario Moose Hunting........ |
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I am a non-resident to Ontario...But I have been spending my hard earned money up there every fall for the past 12 years....Hunted Bear,deer and for the last 3 years I have been chasing "Bullwinkle" from one clearcut to the other.Guess what? That's right....still haven't scored.
Now between calling, sex scent lures,food scent lures and etc. Have yet to bring in a bull to within bow range...lots of cows and calves but no bulls.Now what I want to ask of you folks that may live in Ontario or wherever there is a large population of Moose is:
Again Hope I don't offend anyone with this question ....What is a super "bait" to bring in the bulls to a particular area.Here in the Land of Lincoln (Illinois) we are not allowed to bait for anything...But I have all the regulations for Ontario and baiting is an accepted way of hunting up there...So if any of you have any good ideas.....they would be greatly appreciated. In turn I will share some of my deer hunting secrets with you....and I don't claim to be a braggit but I have over 125 deer that have passed through my freezer in the last 40 years.So here's hoping to hear from some of the moose hunters...Thanking you in advance for some tricks of the trade..Thank You. |
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Widux
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
Posts: 207
Location: Melvina, Wi.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 19, 2007 6:46 am Post subject: |
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| Super bait--A LIVE cow tethered to a tree--Only way i ever got a Moose in AK(74-98) or Ontario(99-07)was by being there at right time- in right place-and hunting hard--never used fake antlers- sprays or lures- have called quite a few in but have to admit--I'm a rifle hunter- we did get two one year with bows in AK but on a special hunt near town. have several friends who also like to handicap them selves by using bow but who have scored on those Occasions when they didn't want/ need meat. |
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Taku
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Location: Yukon
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 2:08 am Post subject: |
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sorry, I can't really be much help. I've never used bait or lures except for fishing. I've shot plenty of bull moose...some keys for me
silence
stay put
call / scrape well and not too much
stay put
canoe helps..I'd take water over a clearcut any day..but that's the Yukon for ya
call well
stay put
location
location
location
I have never even seen anybody up here hunt with bait or lures for moose
I admire your perseverence (sp?)....keep trying....maybe all that manufactured odour is keeping them away??
maybe get some real cow urine?? yuck....but maybe?!
best of luck |
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Widux
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Location: Melvina, Wi.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 6:10 am Post subject: |
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Hey Taku--Welcome back- I hope you had a great fall hunt and wish you and yours a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year. I'll be back in Fai in March for the Tired Iron Vintage Snomachine rally/ race.
I've never used much heard of lures for bulls and certainly never carrieda decoy or set of antlers into the bush either. |
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Taku
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Location: Yukon
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 7:29 pm Post subject: |
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Widux...that sounds like a great time....I presume you're flying up...if not, and your cruising by on the ol' Alaska Hwy...let me know
Ya the whole lure/scent/bait thing is quite foreign to me - I'm sorry I can't be more help....I've called/scraped moose in to about 30 35 yards on numerous occasions...it takes time, but it can be done
Thanks for the holiday good wishes....Merry Christmas to you as well.
and to you, Johnftwobucks, keep trying...your day will come and your arrow will fly straight and true...until then...I wish you the best for the holidays as well ! |
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Hammer1
Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 9:06 pm Post subject: |
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All I've ever used was a birch bark horn. Many techniques have been posted here over the past couple of years, some good reading.
Have a Merry Moose XMas |
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Johnftwobucks
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 15
Location: Woodstock,Illinois
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| Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:19 pm Post subject: Ontario Moose Hunting.. |
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To The Gents That Have Responded to my Questions on Ontario Moose Hunting.......
Thank you for your responses,greatly appreciated and do have a Very Merry Christmas and a Very Happy New Years.........
One thing for sure there is definitely a great difference in Hunting in Ontario and Alaska.I've actually found mineral blocks in the bush in Ontario and I realize everyone has away of doing things...one gent recommended the use of a canoe...not where I hunt......You got fisherman running the waterways at about 60 miles an hour......But again... thanks for the motivational responses.. |
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Widux
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Location: Melvina, Wi.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: |
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"There is a great difference betwixt Ontario and Alaska???"
I don't think so- I moved to Wisc in '98 after 25 yrs in AK and started hunting
moose in Ontario the nexr fall-I applied everything I had learned in AK and it seemed to work- Ain't been skunked yet. |
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Taku
Joined: 11 Jul 2007
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Location: Yukon
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| Posted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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Well, that explains some of it...
I suggested the stealth of a canoe....
"....one gent recommended the use of a canoe...not where I hunt......You got fisherman running the waterways at about 60 miles an hour......
if you're bowhunting where fisherman are running the waterways at about 60 miles an hour you need to change...
location
location
location
(see last part of post)
no amount of scent our bait or whatever is going to help you there....
if you can't do that....be out there calling/scraping well before sun up (ie. well before the 60 mile per hour boats)
Can you hunt in Ontario as a non resident without a guide? You couldn't here in the Yukon. Hell, after 12 years I'd tell you to come up here and I'd get you in bow range...but it's not legal.
Anyway...like I said.... I admire your perseverence....hang in there....your time will come...
Merry Christmas!! |
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Widux
Joined: 18 Feb 2007
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Location: Melvina, Wi.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| Taku--Just checked- your last PM to me was on Sept 27--let's keep in touch. |
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rifle rookie
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
Posts: 20
Location: Ontario
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:43 pm Post subject: Best moose in the north |
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| I have been hunting north of Timmins Ontario for the last 2 years and got the bull each time. I have seen over 30 moose each trip (with lots of pics to prove it)...all within short zoom camera range. I'm not much of a caller, and most of the time I'm dogging thru the bush, but if you have any skill what-so-ever it shouldn't be hard to bow a moose up there. Its 1 1/2 to 2 hrs north of Timmins out of a town called Hearst. |
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rifle rookie
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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Location: Ontario
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 1:53 pm Post subject: Cow urine |
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I forgot to mention...bulls up there love cow urine!!! Both moose I got came strait for the cow urine and ripped the hell out of anything that it was on. The first year I made the mistake of dropping it at the bottom of my father-in-laws tree stand. Needless to say it was completely pulled down the following day. And this aint no baby stand. 16' tall made out of 2 x8's nailed against 2 trees. We soak tampons with the urine and tie them to a low tree lim about 20-30 yards from the stand. We have a group of 9 and get our limit every year. This camp has been there for 14 years and everyone goes home with max. moose.
cheers |
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Johnftwobucks
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
Posts: 15
Location: Woodstock,Illinois
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| Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: Cow urine |
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rifle rookie wrote: I forgot to mention...bulls up there love cow urine!!! Both moose I got came strait for the cow urine and ripped the hell out of anything that it was on. The first year I made the mistake of dropping it at the bottom of my father-in-laws tree stand. Needless to say it was completely pulled down the following day. And this aint no baby stand. 16' tall made out of 2 x8's nailed against 2 trees. We soak tampons with the urine and tie them to a low tree lim about 20-30 yards from the stand. We have a group of 9 and get our limit every year. This camp has been there for 14 years and everyone goes home with max. moose.
cheers Quote: Rifle Rookie I will definitely get back to you in the next couple of days.Thank you for the response. |
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Johnftwobucks
Joined: 13 Dec 2007
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Location: Woodstock,Illinois
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:22 pm Post subject: Moose Hunting Ontario.... |
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Rifle Rookie,
First off thank you for the response......Now let me ask what scent manufacturer do you get your cow urine from ? Down here in northern Illinois there is no moose scents available....so far I tried a moose scent out of Georgia and it did nothing for ole Mooosee....I've been researching it all with some depth and there is an outfit out of Quebec......that claims it's pure.They even have bull moose sperm,urine and also have regular cow urine and cow in esterous.This outfit claims they have the only moose farm in north America.
I don't know if this forum will allow this to go threw but the name of the outfit is "Buck Expert"........I prefer not to use synthetics...just the real stuff.Looking forward to hearing from you. |
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rifle rookie
Joined: 07 Apr 2008
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Location: Ontario
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Alot of the hunting stores carry that brand BUT its twice the price for half as much as "Hot-Stuff!" (113ml for $9...Buck Expert is $15 for 50ml) We use about a 2-3 table spoons (enough to wet a tampon) every 2 days. The moose are just at the end of their rutting so drawing them in with another males urine doesnt always work. I have been told both my bulls were average. The first year the spread was 49 inches and last year it was 41. |
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