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Whitworth
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Location: Virginia
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:54 pm Post subject: |
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Chuck, you've got to get your priorities straight -- hunting comes first -- LOL! :laugh: Just kidding!! Life has a way of derailing many good plans.......
I agree that shot placement is virtually the most important issue in taking game. But, your bullet needs to reach the vitals and this is why penetration is also imperative.
The heart of the hog sits a lot lower and forward in its chest than you may realize. There's a really good anatomical diagram that I am going to try to dig up that helps. I will try to find it!! It has helped me a lot particularly when I started hunting hogs and boy is it addictive!! |
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maddenwh
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Location: austin and amarillo texas
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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DUGABOY1 wrote:
Oh well, the subject is shooting wild hogs, and the origenal poster wants to shoot them with his 470NE double rifle. Well, the 470NE will do far less meat damage than most of the hotrock rifles people use for hogs. The bullets made in the .475 dia, are tough as concrete, and dont open at all, and drop hogs like the world was jerked out from under them! Hog hunting is very good practice for your big bore double rifles, and no rifle is better designed for hog hunting. It is easy to do a double tap on them, with a right, and a left taking two hogs. Several double taps are done every outing at the ranch.
We hunt hogs twice a year at a 120,000 acre low fence ranch in Texas on a DRSS get together, and we shoot hogs with everything fron little 8mm double rifles to 577NE doubles, and the meat is fine. The Club I mentioned is the DRSS (Double Rifle Shooter's Society) formed by me a few years ago, and it now has members world wide.
So, My friend, if you want to hunt hogs with your 470NE, do it!
..........................GOOD HUNTING :thumbsup1:
DUGGABOY- Good stuff. I've always said that hogs are absolutely perfect for practicing with DG rifles. I'll be taking the 470 Chapuis, 9.3x74R Chapuis, mod70 375 H&H, 458 Watts, and my baby killer, the 35 Whelen up to my ranch in the Texas Panhandle this December. I was wondering what ranch you all hunt on in central Texas that's 120,000 acres. The only one I could think of off hand that's that big is the King Ranch or some division of it. I know two or the managers down there... J. Hunt and D. Delany. Anyhow, it sounds like a blast. If only I could get someone out there with me to shoot these suckers. For some reason, the wife wouldn't bite.
MUSKYMIKE-
I'm headed up to hunt two days before x-mas and then from Jan. 2-6 (the 6th being the last day of deer season in Donnelly Co.). If and when I get lucky, I'll certainly post some pics. I'll also be using my big bores on my second deer if I'm lucky and get the first one to begin with. I'll probably stick with the 35 Whelen, 338 federal, or the 9.3 for the first go-round. It'll certainly be the 9.3 if I ever get the time to work out a proper load. Hopefully, you'll hear back from me in a month. :thumbsup1: |
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Whitworth
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Maddenwh -- you should be studying and not thinking about hunting hogs! :laugh: |
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Kirrmeister
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:37 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Witworth!
I agree fully with you about the penetration power of a bullet. So a 200 grs bullet of a 8x57 IS Mauser with a stout load brings 2900 ftlps at the muzzle and at 100 yds about 2300 ftlps. I think that is enough to bring every hog down.
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Whitworth
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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Kirrmeister wrote: Hi Witworth!
I agree fully with you about the penetration power of a bullet. So a 200 grs bullet of a 8x57 IS Mauser with a stout load brings 2900 ftlps at the muzzle and at 100 yds about 2300 ftlps. I think that is enough to bring every hog down.
That sounds like a potent load!! It will definitely take any hog on the planet! |
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Chuck S
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Location: Carlisle, Iowa
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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Whitworth
I agree with what you say about shot placement and penitration. I'll be glad when I can finally get relocated so I can try to get back to some hunting. I'm going to NM where there is Javelina but will also be close enough to Texas for hogs maybe. I don't know if there is a license required or not but I'll find out. One fellow said always aim for the head to protect the meat. My .223 will do that and anything else I might pick up along the way like .243, 22-250, 7mm08, or a 338 Fed.
Thanks agian for the update
Chuck S |
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Chuck S
Joined: 09 Nov 2007
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Location: Carlisle, Iowa
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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Whitworth wrote: Kirrmeister wrote: Hi Witworth!
I agree fully with you about the penetration power of a bullet. So a 200 grs bullet of a 8x57 IS Mauser with a stout load brings 2900 ftlps at the muzzle and at 100 yds about 2300 ftlps. I think that is enough to bring every hog down.
That sounds like a potent load!! It will definitely take any hog on the planet!
Is that the same as the K98 German Mauser of WW II? That is a lot of gun. You could stack hogs up and kill 8 or 9 at a time ! get them all lined up in a pretty little row and WHAM!!!!!!!!!! Pork chops ala-everywhere !!!!!!!!! |
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Whitworth
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: |
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Chuck, check out the hog picture gallery (I think it's the post underneath this one). I posted a picture of the two hogs my brother-in-law shot with one round last May when we last went hunting. This freak occurence happened to me once a number of years ago, too!! It's a shocker when it happens! :o
Keep us posted on your hunts, Chuck! |
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Chuck S
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:32 pm Post subject: |
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Whitworth;
I saw your pics. Very impressive. My question are these feral hogs as good of eating as a regular market hog? What is the differences?
I would make a lousy Muslim or Jew ... I really enjoy good pork.
Chuck S |
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Whitworth
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Chuck!
Boars below 200-lbs in my opinion are great table fare! Real big boars are gamey. It's great pork that IMHO has better flavor than store bought pork. But it is lean and can easily be too dry if over cooked -- but, it's great eating!
Sows are good as they lack testosterone........also, if you chase a boar, they get all pumped up and adrenalized and therefore they can be stinky! |
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Chuck S
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| Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 6:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Whit ..... I hear about hogs in SW (??) Iowa but I do not know of any specific info about them. I know there are some guys asking questions and checking around.
Chuck |
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Whitworth
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: |
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Chuck, once you start hunting wild pigs, you will be hooked!! You'll see! Can't wait to hear your impressions after you go!
Good luck, and keep us posted! |
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Kirrmeister
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Location: Bavaria, Germany
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:30 am Post subject: |
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Chuck S wrote: Whitworth wrote: Kirrmeister wrote: Hi Witworth!
I agree fully with you about the penetration power of a bullet. So a 200 grs bullet of a 8x57 IS Mauser with a stout load brings 2900 ftlps at the muzzle and at 100 yds about 2300 ftlps. I think that is enough to bring every hog down.
That sounds like a potent load!! It will definitely take any hog on the planet!
Is that the same as the K98 German Mauser of WW II? That is a lot of gun. You could stack hogs up and kill 8 or 9 at a time ! get them all lined up in a pretty little row and WHAM!!!!!!!!!! Pork chops ala-everywhere !!!!!!!!!
Hi Chuck S!
You are right it is the cartridge that feeds the famous K98 of WWII. The baby of every german Landser of the Whermacht. It makes a big boom and bring down any game on this planet. But out of these K 98 with its steel buttplate it has a terrible recoil, horrific for your shoulder.
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Chuck S
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| Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:30 am Post subject: |
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My step father had a K98 Mauser. My brother used it one season for deer hunting in Michigan. As I remember it, everytime he would pull the trigger it would screw him in the ground about 2 feet ....lol.
Excellant rifle IF you tough enough.
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Kirrmeister
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| Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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So do you think Americans are not tough enough to stand these rifle? :D
When you use this cal. in a hunting rifle with a rubber butt plate there will be no problem.
Regards
Kirrmeister |
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