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Reuben · Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 11:20 am Post subject: 300 RUM on Brownies?

I am taking my rem 700 bdl ss in 300 rum out bear hunting this spring for some brown bear in SW Alaska. I was wondering if anyone has experience bear hunting with this cartridge? I use 200 grain Barnes TSX's doing 3200 fps. (Are there better loads?) I was going to take the 350 Rem Mag, but don't have a scope on it (limited range capabilities). It's the back up shooting 250 grain Barnes at 2500 fps. Any info or suggestions would be great.

Thanks Reuben

Guest · Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 8:34 pm Post subject:

Reuben, if your going to chase after the big bears in the woods, your better suited to get yourself a .375H&H and by doing so, you will have a much better stopping rifle in your hands should you be in the alders etc. Now that is a real big bear caliber with those 300 grain bullets.

Reuben · Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 2:37 pm Post subject:

I'd love a 375 H&H but don't have one or plan on getting one soon. Hopefully in the future. But I was wondering if this setup will work. If not I'll have to put a scope on the 350 rem mag. Although I do love the fast acting iron sights on the guide gun. Also the bears will be on river banks, the open flats, and mountains.

Reuben

atomikall · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1935

Caution -- brown bear hunting can be hazardous to your health.

.375 H&H has earned wide acceptance as an outstanding brown bear cartridge. Loaded with a 300-grain round nose and propelled at 2500 fps, the .375 H&H develops over 4100 ft. lbs. of muzzle energy. That's two tons of killing power at very close range and more than enough to knock that towering 12-foot brownie flat on his back at ten yards.

ChesterGolf · Joined: 17 Aug 2002 Posts: 1590 Location: Nova Scotia

The 300 RUM will work great for brown bear. The 200 gr. triple shock is a great choice and should knock them hard. You have as much and more power pushing that bullet as a 375 H&H has. A factory loaded 180 gr. RUM has a muzzle vel. of 3250 FPS and an energy over 4200 lbs. It can also do the job.

atomikall · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1935

sure will i agree.

ronrimjam · Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: bear, de

i will be alaska sept. 2005 using a 30-378 weatherby mag 180 grain barnes x, pushing 3450 ft/sec, 4750 ft/lbs at muzzle, i'm confident the big bear will go down with both our calibers.

atomikall · Joined: 27 Aug 2004 Posts: 1935

Im confident with you and your choice if you are good luck man have a good hunt.

ronrimjam · Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: bear, de

[quote="ronrimjam"]i will be alaska sept. 2005 using a 30-378 weatherby mag 180 grain barnes x, pushing 3450 ft/sec, 4750 ft/lbs at muzzle, i'm confident the big bear will go down with both our calibers.
on sept. 26 2005 i shot a mountain grizzly that squared at 8 ft 2 inches, 800 lbs.
shot with 180 grain barnes X 30-378 weatheryby mag, one shot, double lung, at 250 yds. bear ran 150 yds then laid down to die. shot at lake beverly, 70 miles north of dillingham, ak.[/quote]

ronrimjam · Joined: 25 Aug 2005 Posts: 5 Location: bear, de

[quote="ronrimjam"][quote="ronrimjam"]i will be alaska sept. 2005 using a 30-378 weatherby mag 180 grain barnes x, pushing 3450 ft/sec, 4750 ft/lbs at muzzle, i'm confident the big bear will go down with both our calibers.
on sept. 26 2005 i shot a mountain grizzly that squared at 8 ft 2 inches, 800 lbs.
shot with 180 grain barnes X 30-378 weatheryby mag, one shot, double lung, at 250 yds. bear ran 150 yds then laid down to die. shot at lake beverly, 70 miles north of dillingham, ak.[/quote][/quote]

WesternHunter · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 685 Location: Western USA

Considering that the minimum recommended cartridge for brown bear is the .30-06 Springfield with a premium bonded 180 grain or heavier bullet, gee I'd say that any .30 caliber magnum with a 200 grain premium bullet would work just fine as long as you do your part, don't ya think?

Don Fischer · Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 2041 Location: Antelope, Ore

I've never hunted them but I think that Chester Golf got it right, Barnes TSX. With that much velocity I'd be concerned about tearing up a lesser bullet on a close shot. Doesn't seem to be much value in having a cartridge that can stop a close encounter it you don't have a bullet up to the job.

Come to think of it, this is the first time I've ever suggested using a premium bullet. What would you take, Western Hunter, if you were to go? I think I'd take a 338-06 loaded with 250gr Hornady RN or maybe a 250gr Nosler Partition.

WesternHunter · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 685 Location: Western USA

For Grizzlies? I'd take a BIG gun and use some type of heavy premium bullet. Probably a Trophy Bonded Bear Claw or a Swift A-Frame.

Something relatively slow and very heavy like a .375 H&H or .458 Win Mag. Would definitley have a low fixed powered scope mounted with quick detachable scope rings and keep the iron sights zero'd at 50 to 75 yrds

Oh yeah, not taking any chances with those beasts. If it can eat me or inflict serious damage or death, I'm coming prepared. :lol:

expatriate · Joined: 26 Oct 2002 Posts: 1160 Location: Alaska

I just took my first brownie...a sow that squared just under 7 feet. Used a .300 WSM with 180 grain TSX bullets. At 124 yards (verified by laser), the bullet went through the left shoulder, transited the vitals, came out just behind he right shoulder, and kept on going, leaving an exit wound about the size of a quarter. The impact knocked her clean off her feet and she only made it about six feet before dropping dead as a stone. So I'd say a .300 RUM ought to do just fine. Not a B&C bear, but big enough. It's not the size of the bullet -- it's where you put it that counts.

wyoelkhunter · Joined: 08 Oct 2007 Posts: 56 Location: wyoming

I would consider the 200gr swift bonded A-frame.