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colt45



Joined: 12 Jun 2007
Posts: 10
Location: CA

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: eye guards on blacktails and mule deer  

Why is it that some hunter count eye guards on blacktails and mule deer as points and some hunters don't. The whitetail hunters count them. Anyone want to help me out on this one.
I believe that if you can hang a ring on it, count it.!!! :thumbsup1:
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Bullbuster



Joined: 15 Sep 2006
Posts: 180
Location: Norfolk, Virginia

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 9:34 am    Post subject:  

Can't really tell ya on the Mulie's but I see you in CA and that is where I hunted Blacktail for the last 5 years. So this is what I know and was told by several Game wardens. CA does not count eye guards as points due to the fact that they have a 2 point min on one side. So a forky on one side would only be legal. Depending on the area you hunt the gene pool is FUBAR on the deer. Many do not even grow eye guards.Take the A-zone for example.They refer to the blacktail in this zone as Pacific 2 points as the vast majority do not have eye guards but will grow massive forked hornes and nothing more. Other zones will only produce spikes till they are 3-4 years old then develop forks. One particular area in D-7 I hunted seeing spikes with 2-3" bases and 18" spikes was commen, and 5x5's within this same area with racks as thin as pencles. Hence the pencle rack term. I have seen alot of bucks with eye guards but they where only 1-3". Most of these bucks came from the back country and where 5-7 years old. Old bucks to say the least. The only way I can see reversing any of these genetic flaws is to actually implament some sorta deer management program. They can start by allowing a doe or 2 to actually be harvisted. Hope this helps some. I can only assume that the same can be applied to Mulies as well.
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billythekidrock



Joined: 27 Apr 2005
Posts: 396
Location: OlyWa

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject:  

They (East Coast/Mid West) count the eyeguards on whitetails because they are so easy to hunt. Everyone can kill a 2 pt. with eyeguards, but it sounds more impressive to call it a 6 point!

Most blacktails hunters are un-assuming and will gladly call a 4x4 with eyeguards (10 pts) a 4x4.

lol
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osagejake



Joined: 16 Jun 2007
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Location: springfield, oregon

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject:  

another reason is that boone and crockett count any eyeguards at least an inch long as points.
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Romey



Joined: 24 Oct 2006
Posts: 159
Location: Montana

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject:  

osagejake wrote: another reason is that boone and crockett count any eyeguards at least an inch long as points.

Egggxactly :yes:
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