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PeterM



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Location: Sweden

Posted: Thu Mar 20, 2003 7:31 am    Post subject:  

Is there anyone that has experience with this nice little caliber?

/Peter
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ChesterGolf



Joined: 17 Aug 2002
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Location: Nova Scotia

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 5:57 pm    Post subject:  

Is that the 218 Bee that you are referring to? I was looking it up on "Cartridges of the World" and that is all I came up with. It looks like a fine little calibre. Are you thinking of getting it to replace the 22 hornet?
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PeterM



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
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Location: Sweden

Posted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 11:11 pm    Post subject:  

Yes it should be 218 Bee sorry about that:(. It looks like a nice little (odd) caliber to replace my 22Hornet, which by the way is on its way back to Ruger and then it is up to them to find the problem or replace the rifle.

/Peter
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ChesterGolf



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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:42 pm    Post subject:  

The 218 would certainly be an odd calibre but looks to be a winner. How is the reloading potential for the round. Is brass easy enough to get or form?
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ChesterGolf



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Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2003 1:44 pm    Post subject:  

Let me know how Ruger's "customer service" is and what they find out. Hopefully they will fix the problem and you can get shooting it again. With only a limited number of firearms allowed, you probably miss it when one is gone.
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PeterM



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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2003 1:57 am    Post subject:  

The 218Bee cases can be made by necking down a 25-20 (or 25-35) and then fire forming. So it has the same base as the 22 Hornet but is slightly longer than the 22 Hornet case and therefore also higher performance. So there should be cooler with a wildcat where you take the 22 K-Hornet reamer and set it a little deeper than ordinary K-Hornet. Then you have a K-Hornet-Long and cases for this can be made in the same way as 218Bee cases. The above include only rim cases and are therefore not so attractive solutions (according to me). So therefore have I constructed a wildcat based on the 221Fireball case. The only adjust I will do is to neck it to 6mm/.243inch (and maybe change the degree on the shoulder) and there by I will have my very own 6mmFireball, 6mm-221, .243Fireball or 243-221. The idea is to deliver 70gr. FMJ bullets at 600m/s or 2000fts. Why this low speed? That is to be able to use it for grouse hunting during the winter. In Sweden we have a class separation for weapons and for grouse hunting is it Class3 that is the maximum and that means that I have to be under 800J (energy) at 100m. This can be seen to be a stupid rule but during high season when there is really a lot of hunters in the mountains and no trees that can stop a bullet it is wise to avoid calibers like the .222Rem that would send a bullet mile after mile.

Yes of course I miss my 22Hornet. The limit in six weapons is no problem for an ordinary hunter but when you like me are (very) interested in rifles generally then it is a big problem. As I told I already have five rifles and I have now found my sixth. It is an old shotgun made by Sauer & Son in 1939. It is a beautiful gun and I liked it the moment I saw it. This gun will be used for hare hunting. Now when the limit is filled I have to sell one rifle before I get another one or I can rebuild the ones I already have. The way I will choose will of course be the rebuilding path and I will probably end up with only wildcats.

I will keep you updated on Ruger costumer service.
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