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CVC



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Location: Kansas

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject:  

I pulled this from the Hornady site for the bullet. Anyone can go to their site and get the information.

Trajectory (inches)
Muzzle 100 yd 200 yd 300 yd 400 yd 500 yd
-1.5 0.0 -8.5 -
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Hammer1



Joined: 03 Dec 2005
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Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:00 am    Post subject:  

cathunter wrote: I know every gun shoots different. This must be especially true for my Marlin 917V shooting Winchester's 17 GR v-max bullet at 2550 ft/sec. All the things i have found about drop of the bullet at different yardage has been wrong. I sighted my gun in at 50 yards for shits and grins so i could also squirell hunt with it. But on a calm day sighted in at 50 my gun was shooting 3.5 inches high at 180 yards punching out groups under .5 inch. ::-k As for dropping almost 5 feet at 300 or 350 is a crock of crap. At 300 yards my gun drops maybe and inch to two inches.

Cathunter:
0 @ 50 yards, + 3.5 @ 180 yards...grouping : UNDER .5 inch

drop of one or two inches @ 300 yards

Calling someone posts "crap", how ironic, but You hold the Copyright on that
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ptschafer



Joined: 07 Jan 2008
Posts: 5
Location: Iowa

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 9:51 am    Post subject:  

I don't buy that, the .17 HMR does not have sustained range for a 50/300 yd zero... unless your scope is mounted 10" above the barrel.

Hitting close to zero at 50 and 300 yds is something a little more realistic from a .223, or higher caliber and fps/weighted bullet. Not the HMR. Unless you're talking about the .17 Remington...

Maybe if you explain your setup a little better to us, it would be great to understand what exactly your shooting situation is with your HMR.
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CVC



Joined: 04 Mar 2006
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Location: Kansas

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:15 am    Post subject:  

The debate on this issue is a lot better if we stick to debating the issues without resorting to adjectives describing each other's posts.

Now, we can go back and forth, but I think looking at the ballistic data from a reputable ammo manufacter pretty much settles the issue.

The post from Hornady's site is pretty consistent with those that posted significant drops at the longer ranges.

It doesn't seem possible that someone is going to get a drop of 1 - 2 inches at 300 yards when Hornady's ballistics show a drop of 8.5 inches.
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SoCoKHntr



Joined: 18 Dec 2006
Posts: 733
Location: Pueblo Colorado

Posted: Wed Jan 09, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject:  

CVC wrote: The debate on this issue is a lot better if we stick to debating the issues without resorting to adjectives describing each other's posts.

Now, we can go back and forth, but I think looking at the ballistic data from a reputable ammo manufacter pretty much settles the issue.

The post from Hornady's site is pretty consistent with those that posted significant drops at the longer ranges.

It doesn't seem possible that someone is going to get a drop of 1 - 2 inches at 300 yards when Hornady's ballistics show a drop of 8.5 inches.

CVC, it's not just the bullet drop, it's the energy required to kill. I don't doubt many people kill yotes and cats with 17 rimfires within a hundred yards. I don't doubt a few do it out to 150 and a little further. But, a quick clean kill at 300 yards??? Other then a freak occurance like maybe an accidental direct eyeball hit I don't see it happening. If you're luck enough to hit it at that distance by judging your drop you are wounding it in 99.9% of these hits.
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