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redrider
Joined: 20 Mar 2006
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Location: NE Kansas
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject: Baiting for Cam Pics |
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| How would a guy go about baiting for a mountain lion? Purely for Trail camera pics, not allowed to hunt. Supposedly we don't have them here in KS even though they have been sighted. My cousin saw one on our property and I'm wanting to try and get a picture of this beast. A neighbor had a mid size dog die of natural causes and they took it to the woods. When one of them was wandering the woods shortly after they found the dog carcass 12 ft. up a tree half eaten. Dont know of any other animal around here that could have done that. :o |
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hunter777
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| Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:46 pm Post subject: |
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| I think My Lion prefer to kill there own prey but I'm not positive. I know in South America they use a goat tied out in a field for bait. The goat gets lonely and cries and the lion comes to eat! |
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redrider
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Location: NE Kansas
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| You know where I can find a cheap goat? |
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hunter777
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:12 am Post subject: |
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| Check out the local farmrs market. |
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Kudubull
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: Baiting leopard (here is the trick) |
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Went to africa to hunt leopard. We used bait. I would think that you could do the same from mountain lion if you wanted to take photos here is the trick most dont know this.
1. Must have a fresh kill. (pig,goat, etc) after 4 days no good
2. Hang it in a tree.
3. Create a very hidden blind about 40-60 yards away.
4. Check it every morning to see if a cat has bit off or walked around it the prevous night.
5. Once a cat has been around a kill at night it will more than likely come back the next night and more than likely come back right at sun down or right as it is dark. The reason why they come back early is because they dont want anyone else getting there food supply.
6. Once the cat has hit the bait, time to hide in the blind and wait for him.
7. This is best done with a full moon.
This is what I have been taught from leopard pros in Africa dont know if it would work on a north amreican cats but if it does I would love to see your photos. Nothing is more amazing than a live mountain lion. |
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redrider
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:47 pm Post subject: |
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| Would you hang it down from a limb or on a limb? And would you cut it open or just leave alone? Thanks for the tips :thumbsup1: |
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Kudubull
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Leave it alone. do not cut it open. tie it to a tree with bailing wire. do not let the cat drag it away. tie it high enough so other animals couldn't get to it. |
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hunter777
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| Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: |
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| I have heard of people following the drag marks from the lions kill until they locate the kill. Then they set up whereever the lion hid it and wait the next night or two. I posted a link to a great story from a man that did this. I will try to find it in here. |
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raz-n-co
Joined: 28 Feb 2005
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Location: Area 20 Colorado
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| Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2006 9:03 am Post subject: |
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My dad got an elk last season, and we had to go back to the gut pile to get some rope we left. When we got there cat tracks were all over and he had covered it with leaves. We went to check it the next evening and he was "guarding" it from about 50 yards away. No tag or he would have been a gonner.
Not sure if that helps but thought I would share.
One other note, the warden probalby won't care that you are not hunting if he catches you baiting for a lion. Even if you don't have them there. Can you bait bears there? Just be careful you don't get fined
good luck. |
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WAcoyotehunter
Joined: 11 Mar 2006
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Location: Washington
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:27 pm Post subject: good bait |
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I have had good luck with Bobcats and Cougars using a quail carcass hanging form a branch. It moves enough to get their attention. i suspect anything would work, i happened to have some quail around. Also try a pie plate, the shiny movement will attract.
As for carcasses stuffed away in trees...cougars don't do that, they cache their food under logs, branches, and leaves. |
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redrider
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Location: NE Kansas
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Good to know. Nice pic :thumbsup1: |
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WAcoyotehunter
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Location: Washington
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| Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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Same spot as the cougar, i wish i'd have got his head in there too!
Not too happy to see a huge skinny cougar in my neighborhood... :o |
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StruttinAnRuttin
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Location: Northeast Pennsylvania
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| Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: |
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| wow pretty wild pics! |
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atomikall
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| As I said before amazing pics man keep em comming Im enjoying! :thumbsup1: |
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John A. Lutz
Joined: 20 Jun 2006
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Location: Maysville, Grant Co, WV
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| Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 6:18 am Post subject: bobcat/puma pictures |
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The 2 pictures above are beautifiul shots of 2 bobcats and 1 cougar.
You mentioned carcasses in trees, that cougars or mountain lions don't do that, I beg to differ.....
In the east, numerous deer, elk, rabbit and small game have been found stuffed in trunk or splits of trees, anywhere from 10 to 17 feet above ground level.
In discussions with several wildlife biologists at a cougar conference on June 26th in northern Pennsylvania , all agree, cougars, mountain lions, Pumas and even black panthers(leopards) and jaguars stuff their catches into trees well above ground, so other scavengers cannot reach it.
If meat spoils, Mr Cougar will not return to feed off it....and will leave for scavengers.
If meat stays fresh, cat will return to feed upon it for days.
There is to be another cougar conference in northern Pennsylvania in late June of 2008, where the cougar/panther issue will be further discussed.
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John A. Lutz
epuma@hardynet.com |
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