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Chuck-n-Alaska
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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Location: Alaska
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: synthetic stock question |
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| I recently bought a used Rem 700 with a synthetic stock I like it except its noisy. It sounds like I'm beating on plastic when it bumps something. Are a synthetic stocks like that? Is there anything I can do to make it quite? Or should I go back to wood? |
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Hammer1
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 12:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know if I dislike synthetic stocks enough to change over unless necessary but I prefer solid wood, not laminated.
Here's a link to a nice article that is worth a read:
http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_stock.htm |
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ChesterGolf
Joined: 17 Aug 2002
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Location: Nova Scotia
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 2:04 pm Post subject: |
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| The heavier reinforced syn. stocks are much more quiet. Bedding the action may make it a bit more quiet and possible more accurate to boot. :thumbsup1: |
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Don Fischer
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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Location: Antelope, Ore
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| Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 8:16 pm Post subject: |
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| I have one and only one plastic stock. It too is on a Rem 700. I absolutely hate the thing but it was a present. I have never seen a worse bedded stock in my life. And that sound it makes when you bump it drives me nut's. But after a lot of bedding work, it does shoot well. I much prefer solid wood and would someday like to try a laminate wood stock with all walnut verneers. |
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denverd0n
Joined: 09 Nov 2005
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Location: Colorado
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| Posted: Wed May 23, 2007 8:14 am Post subject: |
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| I have a Browning A-Bolt with a synthetic stock and I love it. Yeah, it might be a little bit louder when you bump it, but not that much. Carrying it up and down the Colorado mountains I really appreciate the fact that it is a couple of pounds lighter than an equivalent wood-stocked rifle. |
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Nathan
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Location: NewZealand
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 3:03 am Post subject: |
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Hi Don, the M700 stock is one one of the better synthetic stocks on the market as it is fairly stout and makes for a good bedding platform. The best method to quiet your stock is to use one of the many aerosol type fillers. In New Zealand we have Selley's Space invader which is used for filling holes in damaged walls (home interior). It sprays out as a foam before setting into a hard plastic. It is also light and is ideal for filling the buttstock. As well as this you may like to fit an elastic ammo holder. These are designed to go on your wrist/ forearm but when stretched over your rifle buttstock do a great job of deadening noise.
Cheers, Nathan
http://www.ballisticstudies.com |
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Don Fischer
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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Location: Antelope, Ore
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 7:57 am Post subject: |
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Nathan, welcome to the site. I wasn't aware that the stock was hollow. I know the forearm is and one of these days I'm gonna find some push rods and bed them in there with epoxy. Now, to get foam in the butt, I'm guessing I'd have to drill a hole in the stock? Or does the butt plate screw off? I'd figured it was glued on. I think I said earlier the only reason I have this rifle is it was a gift. I'm big on wood stocks but every once in a while I think I should try a plastic one, a friend over heard that and not only bought the wrong rifle but wrong barrel length too. Wanted a med wt. 24" barrel, got a light 22" one. Not sure where I would have found what I was thinking about, but thinking was all I was doing.
Tried to take the stock off it when I got it to fool with the trigger, felt like it was moulded to it. Bedded pretty tight up the barrel and still had a pressure point in front. Action was tight. Relieved it all and floated the barrel anf the stock still wouldn't let go of the barrel action. Found out that the recoil lug was bedded tight all the way around. Had to dig it out and redo the whole thing. Lifts in and out easily now and doesn't shoot bad; but don't bump it because it sounds like an MTY plastic container! |
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Chuck-n-Alaska
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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Location: Alaska
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Howdy Nathan,
Are you talking about urethane foam? Do you drill two holes one to let the air out or will one do? |
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Hammer1
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 4:43 pm Post subject: |
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Welcome Nathan:
This is very interesting topic Chuck is in Alaska,Nathan in New Zealand and I am almost exactly half way between the North Pole and The Equator( that's what the sign says)
::-k Interesting ::-k |
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Don Fischer
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 24, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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Hammer1 wrote: Welcome Nathan:
This is very interesting topic Chuck is in Alaska,Nathan in New Zealand and I am almost exactly half way between the North Pole and The Equator( that's what the sign says)
::-k Interesting ::-k
Ya know what? I'm almost on the half way point myself! That is the 45th parallel (however you spell that), isn't it? |
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ChesterGolf
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| Funny how many people think "all of Canada" is more northern than the USA(except Alaska). I've had tourists from North Dakota state that it must be awful to live so north. I tried to explain that we were more south than them but they would hear none of it. ::-k :roll: |
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ChesterGolf
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: |
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| I really like synthetic stocks. I like the fact that they can take a bump without decreasing the value of the firearm. I have rifles with beautiful wood and I took off the wood and put a synthetic stock on. I have not tried the laminate stocks so they may be okay as well. Most of my stocks are the heavier HS precisions on varmint rifles but I do have a couple of lighter sporter on hunting rifles. Just remember that every time you hear that clunk when you hit your syn. stock that you would be making a new scar on a wooden one. :thumbsup1: |
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Don Fischer
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 9:15 am Post subject: |
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ChesterGolf wrote: Just remember that every time you hear that clunk when you hit your syn. stock that you would be making a new scar on a wooden one. :thumbsup1:
I prefer to think of them as "cherrished moment's", or maybe "fond memories"! |
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Chuck-n-Alaska
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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Location: Alaska
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I'm still undecided here. I do know the current one one is going bongo drums and hunting don't make it. I like wood for aesthetics, but no doubt the synthetic stock will be more durable. I seldom sell my guns so resale value isn't an issue and bumps and dings do bring back memories. I think if most of you folks saw my guns you would probably have a kitten. Most of them are well used, I maintain them but that doesn't seem to help their looks. Any way thanks for all the help.
I just found this board a while back, I have to tell you this is one of the more helpful boards I've been on in quite some time. It is also one of the most polite ones going.
Thanks Again |
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91xlt
Joined: 15 Mar 2007
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Location: Phila., PA
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| Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: |
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remove buttsock/recoil pad
most likely stock is hollow,
got to home improvement store and buy a can of expanding foam insulation
fill stock with it, do this in 2 or 3 sittings, rather then tring to do in 1, makes for a better job.
trim excess from butt of stock, replace recoil pad, and enjoy a MUCH qieter rifle
Just my $.02 |
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