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knapp717
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Location: Windsor CO
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| Posted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Got one and now have questions |
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I have been a few times and got one last weekend, Was cool. I called her in from a long way. Shot her at about 130 yards. I was using my 223 varmet gun with winchester ballistic tip bullets. I was told that they break apart and don't do much pelt damage. Wow that was wrong. So what type of bullet is reccomended? How does a full metal jacket work?
The other thing is what I got it home to skin it, it was loaded with fleas. I mean really loaded. I had to bag it and trash it. I didn't want to infest my dog or house. What do you do about the fleas?
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hunter777
Joined: 28 Oct 2003
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| Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: |
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The FMJ bullets are recommended by the guys that can legally use them for yotes. Alot of states don't allow them though. They put a hole the size of the bullet in and out holes should be the same.
For fleas some people carry a large plastic garbage bag and after the kill put the yote in the bag with alot of flea killer and seal it shut. By the time you get home they should be dead. |
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bitmasher
Joined: 27 Feb 2002
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Location: Colorado
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| Posted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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In 223 and 22-250 an FMJ is recommended if you want to keep pelt damage down. These simply have too much velocity for there typical bullet weights (50gr and up) for using a frangile bullet if your interested in minimizing pelt damage.
I have talked to several pelt collectors that used 204 and really like it in the 32 grain v-max, especially on the smaller bobcats. 17 remington is also something to look into. 17hmr with a 20gr XTP bullet is yet another option. |
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knapp717
Joined: 23 Jan 2006
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Location: Windsor CO
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| Posted: Mon Oct 09, 2006 9:16 am Post subject: |
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| Thanks, I think I'll try the FMJ's next time. I'm getting in full Elk mode now so the Coyotes will have to wait. |
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Don Fischer
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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Location: Antelope, Ore
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| Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:36 am Post subject: |
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A long time ago I used 50gr Hornady SX's in a 222Rem. They never exited a coyote. Then I didn't go looking for them a lot either. Have shot maybe 10 as targets of opertunity while out fooling around. Now that I know better, I've gone to a 243 w/75gr V-Max bullets. Have only shot one and it wasn't to bad but then I didn't hit anything to soild either!
By the way, I have been wearing myself out with the calls and that one coyote was a target of opertunity found in a friends hay medow on my way out! |
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AustinCo
Joined: 26 Oct 2006
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Location: Austin Colorado
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| Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:02 pm Post subject: |
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I've been calling for a number of years and have found a SP round to do a good job of killing quickly and not punching a fist size hole in the hide. Anybody that wants to sell the hides can take the pelt to a taxidermist and have the hole sewed up with little problem.
As for the calling problem. I have found that most folks calling yotes in call TOO LOUD! If , after a locator howl or two, you don't get any response sit down and start calling like the yote is 100 yards away or less. Wait on that set for about 15- 20 mins and start calling a bit louder... repeat again in another 20 mins louder. I have found that receptive yotes come in after the first set of soft calling. If you can see them and they hang up out of range give them a howl and then call softer then before. Unless they have had alot of calling pressure they will normally come with in range and stop again. Hope this helps in the calling. |
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h_talbot
Joined: 28 Feb 2006
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Location: Idaho
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| Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with AustinCo, most people call way too loud. Start quiet. I usually squeak on my palm with my mouth and get about half of my coyotes that way. I get louder if nothing comes in. Also keep it short. 10 to 20 seconds then wait. The'll come alot closer if they have a harder time locating you.
I use 40 grain v max in my 223 and wait for a broadside or strait facing me shot. They almost never exit and always drop them. Don't shoot them at an angle. You'll wound a lot of coyotes with the fmj's so I'd stay away from them. Explosive tips will work if the angle is right and you don't hit off. You want to hit the deepest part of the chest. Fleas and coyotes are peas in a pod. Don't skin them at home if you're worried about them.
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TheGreatwhitehunter
Joined: 09 Jul 2006
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Location: Colorado
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| good info |
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