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Wyoming Region R and Cloud Peak Wilderness

Hi,

Is there anyone out there who would be willing to chat with me about Region R muley hunting?

Hoping to get into the Cloud Peak wilderness area, but I would like to talk about region R in general.

In return, I will share some quality info. on hunting areas in North Dakota if anyone is interested.

Thank you.

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Can't help you

Just wanted to welcome you to bgh, but also remind you of one of wyoming's stupid laws:  nonresidents cannot hunt wilderness area without a guide.  sucks, huh?

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Thanks for the welcome and the law.

Fortunately, I'm aware of that law and it does suck... for NR's! 

I will be hunting with a buddy of mine who is a WY resident and from what I understand he can get a permit to take me into the wilderness area. He lives in Powell, but hasn't ever hunted the bighorns.

Even if that doesn't work out, I will be plenty happy with the public land that is available to the NR's.

We haven't figured out the details of our trip yet, but in case his time is shorter than mine I would like to have some land that I could pay a trespass fee to get onto if need be. Do you have any suggesstions for some good ones? I will continue my search, but any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks again.

 

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Good luck as it will take

Good luck as it will take that to get a really good buck since R has gone downhill just like many other areas.  A 150"-160" is very realistic in a lot of R though if you can be satisfied with one that size.  You would probably be a lot better to find a good ranch than waste time up high IMO as it's better elk hunting up high and better down lower for deer.  You are right in that the NR wilderness law sucks!

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Thanks for the info. 

PM'd you to ask about ranch trespass recommendations.

Thanks.

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Your PM did not come through into my inbox.  I hunt south of there in Region M and most of the ranches in both regions are like everywhere else in that they are either leased by outfitters that want a small fortune to hunt for not that great an animal or are taken by the same guys every year.  I would suggest you contact the G&F Office in Cody and see if they have a list of ranchers you could contact.  Units 50 and 53 are supposed to be the best and my scouting up in 53 last year did not give me any cause to burn my 3 PPs.  I also have been in contact with two different guys that did solo backpack hunts up in that whole area last season and both were very disappointed and said they would never go back.  The one BLM guy that was working up there when I was scouting also told me that he was seeing very few deer up there while he was working the unit.  I would probably see if I could get on a ranch between TenSleep and Hyattville or hunt the BLM in that general area as close to ranches that have irrigated crop fields if you can't get access to private property.  They have an early cow elk season up in that area because of crop damage and I have heard there are a decent number of mulies down low in that general area also.  You may be able to find some spots where deer are bedding in the BLM and accessing those fields overnight.

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2012 hunt follow up

Just started doing my research for this years hunts and remembered that I had posted on here last year.

Figured I'd give a follow up.

I wouldn't recommend Region R to anyone right now for mule deer. I think it will be several years at best before the numbers are high enough for this to be a good value hunt compared to many of the other NR opportunities out there for muley's.

I did not harvest a deer on that hunt.

I could have easily killed a few small bucks (a tall fork horn with a freakishly wide spread and a spike) and about 20 does, but I wasn't there for that.

We hunted everything from the mountains at 4500 to 9300 ft and some badlands in the periphery of Shell and Greybull. We spent most of our time in the Shell Canyon area.

I don't feel that the trip was a total waste though as it was beautiful country and I could have taken a shot at a deer that was in the 150 class (I've shot 3 this size and put the tape to them, I know a 150 class muley). But, I didn't pull the trigger because I wasn't exactly sure if he was on leagally huntable land at the time. It was a mix of BLM, cow management and private. Plus it was dusk and I felt I would have no problem finding him the next day.

That was a mistake! If you get a chance at a decent deer there and you know all is legal you better take it whether it's the first minute or the 3rd day of your 5 day trip. Because chances are somebody else will screw it up for you if you're anywhere within 2 miles of a road. Which I was.

Anyway, we covered many miles by foot and then by tire to get to areas we wanted to hunt. We hunted nearly all day every day. We knew several other people who were hunting the region as well. A few of them did harvest bucks, but nothing that broke the 130's. I saw one 4x4 buck with decent mass in the back of a truck that wouldn't break the 120's and another when we were getting fuel in Shell that was a solid 140 class buck. The attendent at the station said it was a private land buck though. The rest were public.

I do feel we would have done better if we would have been able to get back in farther away from the roads. It's truly unbelievable the number of people road hunting the mountains.

If you decide to go, you could stand a good chance of finding a nice deer if:

1) you take at least 7 days of hunting

2) hunt well away from the roads

3) pay attention to the elevation where you start seeing deer, there's not much above or below

4) hunt the area for a few years

I'm sure if I went back there this year I would see more deer and stand a better chance of finding a nice one since I know where I would go, but, since I didn't apply that's not going to happen!

Once I start hearing good things from my buddy and his local friends I will probably head back as there are some spots that were out of reach for the time I had available, but looked awesome and devoid of people.

 

 

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