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HB0236 fees

Looks like HB0236 non res tag fees will be as follows ANT $400 reg $700 spec, DEER $480 reg $780spec, ELK $650 reg $1250 spec plus $17 app fee plus any point fees. With an ammendment to change the ratio of spec to reg tags to the reverse of what it is now.

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Now thats not funny!

Now thats not funny!

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Still Funny

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Way too funny! Laugh

This "way too funny" was in reference to the two responses that were given by CaVermonster and TopGun. As I stated prior if it is too hard and too expensive I won't we hunting there as to me it is not a "must hunt" state.

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We may not agree on how to

We may not agree on how to raise the revenues needed, but I would agree the fee increases and ESPECIALLY changing the ratio of PP to Special Draw tags is NOT FUNNY.  It sure looks like the state legislature is getting carried away and Wyoming's hunting tourist dollars are at risk for many communities if they don't get a reality check soon!

Wyoming is a great place to hunt, but not if you have to get a second mortgage to pay for it.

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Agreed,,I've been going to

Agreed,,I've been going to Wyoming for 7 years now along with my family. We spend a pretty decent amount of money but will have to stop if that amount will nearly double.

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I have hunted wyoming since

I have hunted wyoming since after Nam.

 

I dislike fee increases but what can be done? costs go up that needs to be passed on, if you can't afford to hunt WY then thats the way it is. I can't afford many things in life. get used to it.

 

you fellas keep saying you need a guide to hunt in wilderness areas and this is not accurate, you need a licensed guide resident companion to hunt trophy game or big game.

I hunt varmints and birds and trap all over the wilderness areas and have for over many years but if I plan on shooting big game or a trophy game animal, like wolf in those areas they are trophies, then I need to drag a buddy resident along after making them go get the free 'guide' tag. maybe they did away witht eh free guide thing, either way, who wants to make someone come with you everyday? I dont ...reason I am back in the Bob or winds is I dont want to be with other people to begin with.

 

the need a guide thing is, well, that's flat out goddam dumb. in 2010 we packed out two rangers in utah back country who ran into bad luck so things dont only happen to non residents.

Is it a good idea to let novices wander off and drop elk sized critters in places they cant themselves or the meat out of, hell no, didnt say it was. But all it does it annoy those of us who are woodsmen that we cant drop an elk or muley or wolf while we are out hunting other things, legally.

That said I hunt CO every year and ID OTC for elk, if I dont draw a better area, and I love it. CO is a steal and theres more elk there than the whole world combined, that's pure heaven.

 

Finally to get around , legally, the dumbass need a buddy or guide to shoot an elk while on my trap line or flop a wolf while calling coyotes, AND to avoid expensive inceases in tags in Wyoming we are simply moving there full time, instead of spending almost half the year there like we do now and almost half in southern utah with a month back in Vermont, screw it, sell UT and VT and plunk down in wyoming. Hell, I'm retired I can do nothing, anywhere.

shoulda thought of that yourself is what you are thinking isnt it, well, better  late then never. Big smile

 

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Disliking fee hikes and how

Disliking fee hikes and how those fee hikes are implemented are 2 very different things.  I absolutely agree there is a legitimate need for more revenue.  It's how Wyoming's Fish & Game department (and state legislature) have decided to go about getting all of the projected need that bothers me.

 For now we can still afford to hunt Wyoming and plan to continue our annual trek for the best antelope hunting in the US.  However, when the fees are high enough, we will stop making our annual trip and find other things/places to spend our money on.  We'll get used to it, and perhaps not even miss it too much after a couple of years of something else.  

And there's the point--simple economics.  Make it too expensive and you'll price yourself right out of the equation.  Out-of-state hunters spend a lot of money, not just on tags and licenses.  Wyoming Fish & Game has likely factored into their revenue projections a reasonable attrition number for existing non-resident hunters (their customers!).  But I doubt much thought has gone into the local economy impact that such a loss of those hunters will have in the various small communities that will now have fewer hunting "tourism" dollars flowing into their motels, grocery stores, gas stations, restaurants, etc.  If I was a resident of a small town needing those non-resident hunters to support my business, I would be concerned about a 50% to 75% fee increase for those hunters.

That's great you are deciding to move to Wyoming.  Hopefully the community you choose to settle into doesn't see much economic impact from loss of hunter dollars.  If it does, well...get used to it.

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