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WSM and WSSM thoughts?

hey bare back jack how hard did your new 300 wsm kick, and wht model as it

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I had a .300 WSM in a Browning A-bolt. I only sold it for monetary reasons. Mine was super-accurate out of the box, and the kick was decent. They might be more accurate, but the average (and probably the majority of experienced)shooters would never be able to tell the difference. If you already have a .300 mag or a 7mm mag, there's probably no reason to switch. If you're going out and getting your first magnum, it's a decent idea, especially for a lightweight rifle. Mine weighed less than 8 lbs. with scope and all. I like the WSM idea. The WSSMs however, really don't make a lot of sense to me. I can do the same things that the .243 WSSM can do in my 6mm Rem. I would rather have seen a 264 or a 338 WSM.

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Ive always wanted a .243 WSSM but the first one I found was on the day I went and put my .280 in the lay away for xmas and it costed about $200 more. Ive been told the WSM's kick like mules and other people say they dont kick at all. So Id go with a .243 WSSM, low recoil, more than enough power for deer.

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I have a 270WSM and have shot the 300WSM. Personaly, I like the WSM line. The guns that I have shot have all been extremly accurate. My 270 shot 3/4" groups the first time I shot it and got smaller after I got it "broke in". Recoil I think is differient with each cartrige. The 270WSM is close if not more than a regular 270win. but the 300WSM seems more like a 30-06 than a 300win. Is it reason to sell your gun and go out and buy a WSM? No. But... is it a good excuse to go out and buy another gun? Oh yeah! All of us need a good excuse like that. I just read where Winchester has the 25WSSM in their lineup for 2004. The "super short mag" is supposed to have the same velocity as a 25-06. I wish they had made it a regular "short mag" and pushed the velocity up around a 257weatherby but oh well, should be interesting anyhow. I guess this just leaves the door open for Remington.

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I don't think they're really practical, and one thing I have noticed is muzzle velocity sells. No one bothers to notice that at 400 yards, not only does a 7mm Remington Magnum have more speed and energy, but it also delivers a flatter trajectory than its stubby counterparts. Same with the 300 Winchester Magnum. As for the Weatherby calibers, as far as I'm concerned, the stubbies will never even come close to them. They haven't yet, and probably never will.

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According to Winchester website ballistic charts, the 300 WSM outperforms the 300 Win Mag. Ditto the 7mm WSM vs. 7mm mag. (have to compare equal bullet weights and styles) HOWEVER, Remington's SAUM rounds do fall short of the original. In any case, the differences are so small to be picky over. None of these rounds were intended to improve ballistics, but to keep the same level of performance in a smaller and lighter rifle. I think the problem that they face is that so many people already have magnums, and unless you're loaded with money, there's no sense in going out and getting another rifle that does the same thing. Ammo selection is still limited for the new ones too. You can get just about anything you want in 300 or 7mm mag in a factory round. They don't offer a current magnum owner anything they haven't already got. For someone who doesn't already have a magnum though, it's not a bad idea.

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I never use Winchester ammo in my guns. According to generalized ballistics charts, the 7mm Remington Magnum outperforms the 7mm WSM and the 300 Win Mag outperforms the WSM 300. This is most easily observed in terms of downrange energy and velocity. As yet, there's no evidence that the WSMs are more accurate than the standard length magnums either.

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Minor point, with these short fat cases you give up one if not two rounds in the magazine over many of the older longer cases. Not a real big deal in 90% of the hunting situation but...

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On 2003-07-19 21:56, bitmasher wrote:
Anybody tried either the winchester short magnums or super short magnums? If so what are your thoughts or experience with them?

i have just bought a 223 wssm to use on song dogs (coyotes). haveant gotten anything with it yet, as a matter of fact i haveant finsished seasoning the barrel yet. But i can tell you this, if it hits them as hard and as fast as it shoots, there shouldnt be much dog left. i am right now trying to decide what scope to put on it. i am sure it will be a target scope of some type but dont know whos or which it will be. anyyone with suggestion? let me know. thanks

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I have just bought a new 223 wssm. haveant used it. As a matter of fact I haveant even seasoned the barrel yet. Dont even have a scope on it yet. I have fired it twice to start the barrel seasoning. But I can assure you of this already. If it is accurate as they say it is going to be, when I hit a song dog with it (coyote) it should put him belly up quick. I am still speculating on which scope to use,, I know it will be a target scope but,,anyone have any suggestions or experiences with a good target scope? If so please reply.

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