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WSM and WSSM thoughts?

Anybody tried either the winchester short magnums or super short magnums? If so what are your thoughts or experience with them?

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I though I have no experience with them, I am not sure of there purpose. I understand that they imitate their "big brothers" but in a short action rifle. I have both long and short action rifles and really don't see a difference in cycling either one. That is not to say I don't see a diff. between my 300 RUM and my 22 mag. but the diff. between my 300 RUM and my 308 WIN. is very small. I bought the RUM because I wanted to be different. If I was trying to choose between the 300 WSM and the 300 Win Mag. I would still pick the 300 Win Mag.

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You hit the nail on the head, Chester. I don't have any experience with these cartridges either, but from what I have read, a "short action" doesn't seem enough of a reason to switch. I'm having a hard time understanding the hype...

Some literature I have read suggests that WSM and WSSM rounds are more accurate than their regular magnum counterparts. However it seems to me that the action length probably has little to do with this and more to do with improved bore and bullet quality....

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I have just purchased a a winchester Modle 70 FTW in 300 WSM and I realy like it.And today I'm getting a 270 WSM in a super sporter(plain jane the gun weighs in @ 6 lbs-12oz.The advantage is like having 300 win mag carbine.They shoot flat,hit hard and are easy to carry.I also have a 300 ultra mag and it is about twice as punishing to shoot.

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Have you seen tighter patterns (more accuracy) with the WSM, BBJ, compared to the ultra mag? Just curious...

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To tell you the truth,no I have not noticed any diffrence in the grouping.
I sight all my guns in at 100 yds. to be 2in high.With all my guns if I can't cover 3 shots with a quarter at 200 yds I sell them.

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Bit Master,
I didn't buy the 270wsm,I went ahead and bought another 300wsm.
I shot it this afternoon at home and I was grouping 3/4in.@ 100yds with Winchester failsafes 180gr.I think I can cut that down to 1/2in groups with 165gr Noslers.Not bad for a rifle that weighs only 7 1/2 lbs total package.
My featherweight shoots a smidge over 1/2in with factory PowerPoints 180gr.
Let me know if this helped.

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Thanks for the info BBJ, it does help, and it sounds like you are pleased with the short magnums.

It is amazing how light rifles can be these days. 6-7 lbs is lighter than the heavier portable computers these days!

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BBJ I was wondering where you purchased your 300 wsm and how much did you give for it? I got mine at wal-mart and for less than MSRP.

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Tom,
I bought mine at Scheele's All Sports here in Montana.
I know they are cheaper @ Wall -Mart,they didn't feel the same.Plus I got a sling, rings,bases and 4 boxes of ammo in the deal.I think they are $389.98 @ wall-mart (there is no tax in Montana)

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I have a Remington Model Seven in 300 Rem SA Ultra Mag and have just started working up loads for it. Can't say yet what it might ultimately do but I do believe that shorter actions have a better accuracy potential given the fact that they will be more rigid. Mine shoots good so far with factory ammo and the few handloads I have tried but accuracy is not stellar. I think I will get a lot better group by the time I work up the "right" load.

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