I have had some PMs asking how my ID hunt went, Not good. aside from full moon and cloudless hot,hot days. I have first hand observed the impact the reintroduction has had on wildlife. This is not hearsay but from my own eyes. Tracks and carcasses, We took 1 rag horn 4/5 on the opener, and passed on another bull later in the hunt. The reason for the pass was the devastation the wolves had created. Knowing what we know now the first bull would have went unscathed,(only to be taken by the pack later this year). If you think that the hunters crying wolf are being over dramatic think again! They are a cancer, that is now beyond containment. The three S,s will not work, a local outfitter who runs approx 22 hunters a season took 2 bulls! No good for repeat customers, the elk herds were either close to roads and or camps, or deep in the back country. Talking to a well respected ranger ,he disclosed that the elk are safer near humans and the wolves know they will be sought after. Never actually saw a wolf, heard them and saw the sighns, never a shot whitch i would have gladly taken. Utah hunters are next once the wolves take hold you will see the elk capital fall. You may think this is over the top,and i stirring up useless anger, Nah! been their seen it! Dont care what the pro wolf people think, I know what i have seen Dave
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Tue, 2008-11-04 17:52
Wed, 2008-11-05 09:31#1
I have to second this one....
I hunted for Ten days in Frank Church and heard Wolves every night. Saw wolf tracks in every area I hunted. Last year in this area I saw over 45 Bighorn Sheep, This year ........Zero, not a Ewe, a Lamb and certainly not a Ram. What a waste, years of work and millions of dollars reintroducing Bighorn Sheep only to have them slaughtered in a couple years.
I saw very few Mule Deer compared to one year ago and the Elk in the timber were silent and moved hard on any little noise. Game counts are way down. I'm not sure I will hunt this area next year. Ten days with no harvest in Frank Church is tough hunting. Unless of course I get a wolf tag with my Sportsman's combo.
Fri, 2008-11-07 06:45#2
I was in the frank church as well, with the 27 b tag for sept. with the fires the previous years and now the wolves. the frank cant catch a break!
Mon, 2008-11-10 22:13#3
You guys are not alone, I hunted about 18 mile from the s. border of Wy (GMU 6,7)and also talked to the warden who has said a resident pack from Wy has moved into Colorado and i have heard that they are in Rocky Mtn National park. Here is a link of a wolf just outside of walden. http://wildlife.state.co.us/WildlifeSpecies/SpeciesOfConcern/Mammals/Gra...
Sat, 2008-11-15 00:54#4
you're right, Utah and specifically the Uintas will be next. I hunted in the Uintas this year since I live next to it and the winter kill this last year took it's toll. When (not if, but when) wolves make it to the Uintas things will get worse.
Sun, 2008-11-16 23:44#5
Sorry the wolves are in the Uintas. We saw them this summer while packing in to fish. Reported it to the Fish & Game, They said, Naw, had to be Coyotes. I've seen and shot many a coyote in the wild, So I know what they look like.
Fri, 2008-11-28 12:54#6
ya they are really thick up here in montana too. Its pretty much ruined the hunting season for elk this year. hopefully they put out tags or a license to kill em next year
Sat, 2008-12-06 13:09#7
there's a pack working east and north of Heise Id. went in to pack out 2 cows for friends, they had seen 2 watching a bull bedded in a avalanche shute and then cut fresh tracks of 2 adults and 1 juvenile. Also packed out 2 other elk from the other side of the river near Palisades res and cut tracks of a few over there also.
SSS and pick up your empties
Sat, 2008-12-06 19:07#8
I was out pheasant hunting yesterday. The landowner asked if I'd seen any. Apparently they had vanished. She said their neighbors were seeing signs of wolves again. I decided to hunt a spot near her house, and then on a hunch, thought there might be birds pushed closer to City Limits. Ineed, I got into a bunch of birds right at town edge. Well, that isn't so unusual for a phesant to be at town edge, but they usually don't hang as strong as where I ran into them. Then on the way back I cut this track. Yeah, you could say it is a dog track. But I would estimate the maker of this track to weight 150 or 175 lb. Most `dogs' are much, MUCH smaller and have significantly smaller tracks. My 80 (overweight) Golden has much smaller tracks.
So, yeah, it could be a dog. But wolves are very intolerant of canines in their domain. Loose dogs don't last long.
Yeah, it could be a dog print. But my wife was chatting with a friend who has a store-front in down town. And two coyotes walked right by her store this morning, during the work-day. Yeah, maybe it's just coincidence that the coyotes decided to cruise through town today.
Yeah, the tracks could have been a roaming dog. But I was only about ONE mile (along the same creek) from where a wolf was photographed last year this time.
(Sure looks like the ones we saw in the Wilderness.)
Wed, 2008-12-10 13:24#9
I hunted in Boundary county near Roman Nose this year. I drew the closest tag to a sure thing that you could ... a bull moose during the last half of November. Then I injured my back the day before my hunt started and could barlely walk, much less pack out a moose. I did get out a couple of time towards the end and I saw a small bull that I passed on a nice bull that I couldn't get a good shot at. It's very dense woods, so you have to spot one crossing the trail or in one of the logged areas. Anyway, on my last trip out I saw the tracks of 3 or 4 wolves that had been running the logging roads. I lived in Alaska for 12 years, so wolves in my hunting area are nothing new to me, but like anything the key is balance. There is no question that wolves will have an impact on game populations and my experience tells me thta they don't always take the sick and weak of the herd. Bottom line IMHO is that wolves are part of the balance, but they should not go unchecked. There are a lot of hunters that consider a prime wolf pelt an awesome trophy and that opportunity should be there.
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