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tim
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Wolf kills neighbors dog

http://www.cdapress.com/news/local_news/article_76515192-01af-54e9-936a-70acc11ab9d8.html

 

This is not very far from my house.  A couple of minutes drive.

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Someones Kid next

It is just a matter of time before it is someones Kid, sorry to hear about your dog.

Wolves just need to be dead.

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A little too close for

A little too close for comfort.  And it's only going to get closer and closer for all of us in the west....

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as troublesome at times as

as troublesome at times as wolves are, there not the enemy.  without wolves, the eco system is out of balance.  wolves are the only confirmed source of coyote control.  they are also the only true control of Elk herds.  Also, mountain lions will stay in there habitat as wolves drive the elk and deer deeper in the woods.  its a complete system, which is why they were reintroduced.  

 

but, they have expanded in numbers faster than planned, and they are moving south through the rockies.  it will just require more attention to a new predator.  killing the wolves to kill them is not gonna fix anything.  killing a wolf that threatens your family, absolutely acceptable!

 

im sorry to here about the dog.  i would hate to lose my dog to such circumstances.  my condolences to your neighbor.

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Wolves

I think you need to do a little research, these are not the native timber wolf, they are the Canadian Grey Wolf, and are twice as big as the native wolves are, they are killing machines, that kill for fun, not just to eat. they have already devestated Elk deer and moose hurds in 3 States, and are spreading fast, it wont be long, and that baby your holding wont be safe in your back yard.

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buckykm1 wrote:

I think you need to do a little research, these are not the native timber wolf, they are the Canadian Grey Wolf, and are twice as big as the native wolves are, they are killing machines, that kill for fun, not just to eat. they have already devestated Elk deer and moose hurds in 3 States, and are spreading fast, it wont be long, and that baby your holding wont be safe in your back yard.

Kevin

Not to be nickpickin but they are all "grey wolfs"  They just got different names from the regions that they inhabit.  It is a lot like the brown bear/grizzly bear, same animal different names. 

Also here is the historical range of the grey wolf  

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If ?, that is the case, why are these running 100 to 150 pounds ?. compaired to the native Wolf that ran 50 to 75 pounds.

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Point

I see your point. Question though. Aren't Grizzlies/brown bears bigger in Canada/Alaska? I think they are. The moose are too. It's very plausible to think that the wolves here 100 years ago may have come from the gray wolve family but be a different size. Just a thought.

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Zukrider- Not so.

I'm sure you have heard from others but your way off base. The ecosystem in the Rockies had been without wolves for almost 100 years and established a new balanced ecosystem. They do have a effect on coyotes but that can be matched by giving incentives to trappers and hunters to kill coyotes. Hunters have controlled the elk populations for years and have done well. Places where they are out of control is fault of the fish and game for that state. Mountain lions follow the deer which is basically everywhere the wolves are as well. There numbers have been increasing greatly over the years as well. Wolves effect them very little except for stealing a kill here and there. Last thing. They weren't introduced to balance the ecosytem. There was no overpopulation of elk in Idaho. They were introduced because bunny/tree huggers that lived out of state wanted them there so they could visit and hope to see one. They didn't really care about the people who lived there and what they would have to deal with. People were fed a bunch of crap and hopped on the band wagon.

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killing the wolves to kill

killing the wolves to kill them is not gonna fix anything.

 

 

I am actually pretty neautral with the wolf. But i have to ask, why is it ok to predator hunt for coyotes, bears,etc, but not wolves?

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It is called sound wildlife

It is called sound wildlife management! The wolves are way out of control in most areas and have devastated the game in the areas. I do not want the wolf eradicated but for sure they need to be hunted and kept in check so that game animals can thrive. Read the post about Idaho wolf hunts so far this year. Several have been killed in areas that the DNR did not even know they lived. To me that means there are more than they think which is a huge problem. Also look at the ranchers who have to deal with these wolves that take food/income from them and their families. Manage the wolf like any other predator such as bears, lions or coyotes but do not give them some magical status due to irrational human emotions.

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