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Location: Minnesota
Joined: 02/18/2006
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The wolf, deer and the hunter

I am new to this site and hope that this is a place where I can find and share info, tips and hunting & fishing stories. I have hunted, fished and trapped for most of my life. For many years trapping was almost the largest part of my yearly income and hunting & fishing was the main source of food for my family. It was a rare thing to have store bought meat in our household.
For the past year here in Minnesota I have been getting concerned about the increasing numbers of hunters complaining that the wolf is decreasing the deer heard or will decrease the deer heard if they are not controlled by hunting and trapping. A Pine County, MN. commissioner has gone as far as to ask the U.S. Fish and Wildlife service to do something before the wolves kill all the deer and no body will come here to hunt anymore.
I have know idea how he came to this conclusion but here in Pine County we have been over run with deer due to many mild winters. The area biologist from the U.S. Wildlife Service reported that the wolf numbers have not changed for several years but the deer heard was increasing every year. The deer heard in Pine county is lower now than it has been in the past but that is not due to the wolf as many are saying.
For the past several years the DNR has had Pine County deer hunts in the managed and intensive harvest deer hunts. Meaning that depending on where you live or hunt in Pine County a hunter has been able to shoot 2 to 5 deer each year. This is why we have seen a decrease in the deer heard in most of Pine County, MN. and this has been needed for a long time. I manage my property for wildlife and the high deer population has done damage to the forest and the wetlands on my property.
I also have relatives that own land in northeast MN. and they have also had more deer the past several years and that area has a larger wolf population than Pine County. I have know idea what makes people believe we need to get rid of the wolf in MN. but as far as I am concerned the wolf has been a part of the natural world and should always be a part of it.
Everything in the natural world has it's place including hunters, fisherman and trappers. Good stewardship is the key to maintaining a healthly natural world. Thanks and have a wonderful day, we finely have winter in Minnesota.

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Location: NE Minnesota
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The wolf, deer and the hunter

Well put wetlandrat. I live near Ely, MN and we have lots of wolves and more deer every year. Still not as many as Wisconsin, but the only people who want that many deer are lazy hunters! I also hunt in Northern Wisconsin and get at least one deer every year there. It's almost too easy.

We all know there are mistakes being made in management, but eventually people will realize that politics and human emotion make for poor land/wildlife management.

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Location: Minnesota
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The wolf, deer and the hunter

Hi stillhunter,

I love the Ely area, great hunting and fishing. We have a BWCA trip in the plans for this summer. I spent some time hunting around Ashland WI. with some friends that lived there, I know what you mean about being almost to easy. From what I could tell the deer are almost tame in some areas due to baiting.
Your user name indicates that you do not deer hunt from a tree. Myself I have found if you want real exciting deer hunting you don't limit yourself by sitting in a tree. My best deer hunts and biggest bucks have all been taken by sneaking through the woods and fields like a predator. In the 40 years I have been deer hunting I have shot maybe 5 or 6 deer from a tree.
I find sneaking around like a cat a lot more fun and rewarding. There is nothing more exciting when you do everything right and you get the drop on that big buck that has no idea that you are there. I find it just as exciting even when you mess up and that big buck gets the drop on you first and all you can do is watch him bound off as your thinking , wait until next time. Have a wonderful day.

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Location: NE Minnesota
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The wolf, deer and the hunter

You are right I grew up stillhunting(my dad taught me), and prefer it to sitting in a tree. But in this neck of the woods it''s tough to walk quietly and have a chance to see anything. It's rough country and talk about thick! You can do it but it sure takes patience.

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You are not kinding about being a hard place to hunt because of thick cover. I deer hunted off the echo trail one year with my 357 colt trooper, I hand loaded 170 gr. Speer bullets. I found this to work very well and it was the most fun I ever had deer hunting. I had covered myself with beaver lure and walked in on a deer trail. My movement had to be very slow, it took me about four hours to go a 100 yards. I had several doe's and a small buck walk by about 25 feet from me and never knew I was there.
After about six hours of slow moving and hiding 2 doe's and a buck come walking down the trail. I could not believe it, that buck walked within 20 feet of me. He was looking at the doe's and I could hear him making soft grunts, as soon as he turned at a slight angle from me I placed a shot just behind the shoulder. He ran about 20 or 30 yards and down he went, I am glad he left a blood trail because the second I shot I lost site of him because the alders were so thick.
I have hunted with that 357 several times and have found handguns to be a good choice for still hunting in thicker woods. I have used 158 gr. bullets but found them to be to light of a bullet for the 357 on deer. The 170 gr. bullet has got enough weight for good penatration on deer. That buck I shot with the 170 gr Speer bullet hardly mushroomed at all and went through the chest cavity and stopped when it hit a rib. If it would not of hit that rib it would have exited the deer. The reason I use beaver lure is this is a smell deer know and it does not alarm them in any way. I have never seen a deer stop and smell the air when I use beaver lure but I have seen many deer stop and smell the air when I have used other sents like skunk, fox urine and other sents. Have a wonderful day.

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