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Winchester short magnums ?

Do you think the short mags are just a fad that might fade away in a few years like the Rem. .260
I'm thinking of buying a Browning Blr in one, not because it is a short msag. but I like the 22" bbl. on the short action lever. gives the rifle better v]balance. But, I don't wznt to get stuck with a .300 wsm turkey that I can't get shells for in a few years. Think

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the way the rifle is being sold I dn't know if they could stop making rounds for it. Guys that have them I have talked to like them. Other guys want to get one. I can see where a guy would worry about such things as these rifles are expensive and last a life time and more. Good luck on your decision. Me I just use my old 30-06 for everything.

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I don't think you'll have problems getting ammo at all. The worst possible senario is they might cost a bit more.

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Time will tell. One thing about the 260 that you can't say for the short mags, the 260 is on a 308 case and reloading for one will never be a problem. I'm not sure what the short mag is on. Just looked it up, the 404 Jeffery. You'd have to really like to do a lot of case forming to make those cases. 260, one pass with a 243, 7mm-08 or 308 case thru a 260 full lengh die and your done.

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They're not going to simply vanish, but they are a fad in the sense that certain people think they offer things that they don't, or that owning one will make them capable of extraordinary feats in the field. The same is also true of the Ultra Mags, it is the desire of some individuals to reach out and touch animals that drives them, as does the retail value of muzzle velocity. In a practical and realistic sense, the short magnums nearly duplicate the performance of some of the more established magnum cartridges, and it is sometimes alleged that they are more efficient powder-wise; whether one would call this an advantage or not is more a matter of personal preference than practicality.

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One thing worthy of note is the relatively gentle slope of the shoulder on the .243, 260, 7mm-08, and 308. Beautiful feed reliability. Same with the 30-06 and related cartridges.

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I bought a Browning bolt in 300 wsm for the same reason. The rifle felt perfect. After using it. Discovered it worked perfect. Nice stuff that 300 wsm.
If you like the round get one. It will certainly serve it's purpose.

The worst case scenario, as with any other round is. You can always roll your own.
You may end up with a rifle that has some collectability, $$$. You may end up with a fine shooter that shoots a very popular round.
Either way, it seems a reasonable decision to go with the BLR in 300 wsm.

I believe that the Browning BLR also, comes in the 308 win. A worthy round.

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Yes the blr does come in .308 and I have a .358 but thet both have 20" bbl. I'm wanting one with a 22" bbl and since browning doesn't make one in the lever gun. I was thinking of getting the short mag and just loading it to .308 or o6 velocity. The extra 2" of bbl definately helps the rifle balance better and you mmight get an extra 25-50 ft. vel.
I really appreciate your imput. I gues I will just get out my Bar 06 and use it this deer season. It has never let me down and I will ponder this short mag situation. Is it really worth it for 2" of bbl ? Maybe I should go to a lighter bullet weight in the .308 win.. How does the 140 grn work on deer in the .308 win ?.

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If you are a reloader cartridges never really die. That being said, I think history will find 270wsm and 300wsm will be the most popular of the winchester short mags. I suspect these will be easy to find ammo and brass for sometime to come.

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Bitmasher has a point. The 270 and 300 WSM are going to remain, I'll bet the 7mm WSM will die fairly soon, just because there are too many 7mms, not because there is something wrong with it. I personally own a 270 WSM and a 243 WSSM. I've hardly used the WSSM, but have shot a lot of deer with the 270 version. Using the standard ballistic silvertips, I've had great success at over 100 yards. However, I'd use a tougher bullet at closer ranges because of the three deer I've killed at under 50 yards with it, all blew up and failed to exit. I like exit holes for potential blood trails, although I didn't need it with those close shots. By the way my longest kill was a measured 355 yards with the 270 WSM, and the bullet exited.

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do you think that the wsm kick less than the same equivalent magnum cartridge?

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