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Winchester Balistic Silvertip Ammo

I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but here goes anyway.

 

        A few weeks ago my Brother and I went on an Axis Deer Hunt on Maui. We met a few very nice Bucks and he ended up shooting one of them with his 7mm. Rem. Mag. in the front shoulder. the buck fell down on his butt, stood back up and ran as if he was never hit! He fired another shot at him on the run and got him behind the front shoulder. He ran about 30 yards and fell flat. When we cleaned the Buck we found that the first shot had hit the center bone on the shoulder blade and exploded on impact but didn't penetrate thru the bone to the vitals? This is the first time I have ever seen or heard of this happening. Just wondering how many of you have had the same thing happen to you with these bullets. Since that happened we have been placing the shot behind the front shoulder instead and have had much better results.

 

 

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It sounds like the bullet did

It sounds like the bullet did what it was designed to do.  Balistic tip bullets are designed for rapid expansion and not pennitration.  So when it hit the shoulder blade it expanded and blew up.  Now it should of broken the shoulder blade but that is a heavy bone.  I would suggest to go to a premium bullet that is designed to hold together.  Either the Nosler Partition, Barnes, or a hot core style of bullet. 

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Critter is right.  Good

Critter is right.  Good bullet but does not hold together well.  I like to use them for practice and working up loads.  Have used them on antelope and have had great results.

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2 yrs ago i shot a muley with

2 yrs ago i shot a muley with the silver tips and droped it in its tracks but the shotwas right behind the front shoulder. I thinks its all about the placement with those bullets

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The problem comes up when you

The problem comes up when you do not have the perfect shot.  It is my belief that you should have a bullet in your rifle that is going to do the job now matter how the animal is standing since there are too many variables.  Lets say that you have a perfect shot right behind the shoulder then at the same instant that you pull the triger the animal takes a step and you hit the shoulder.  It was no fault of yours but now you have a wounded animal that requires another shot or a long tracking job.  That is if you get one.  It is interesting in that this happened to me and my hunting partner just last year.  We were together and had two buck deer standing broadside looking at us.  We both took the shot at the same time and my deer went down.  The other one took off.  Two hours later we decided to abandon the tracking job when we watch the deer head over another hill.  You just never know when you pull that triger what will happen.   

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I would always try and put

I would always try and put the shot right behind the shoulder so you can get a heart or double lung shot. Some people like to try and break their shoulders so they drop and not run. I think all you are doing is ruining meat. A well placed shot they won't go far. Plus you get more meat.

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Thanks for all of the input.

Thanks for all of the input. I normaly shoot remington core lokt bullets and they are "all around Bullets" to me because they penetrate well and cause a severe exit wound. Here in Maui we don't have much choice as far as loaded ammunition goes. All we have is a local Sports Authority that only sells the regular Winchester super x bullets or the Winchester balistic silver tips, if you want anything else you have to order it and pay an arm and a leg for overnight shipping and a Haz-Mat fee of $35.00. For example my last order for 2000 rounds of .22 LR. and  200 rounds of .223 Nato ammo the shipping and Haz-Mat came out to about $110.00.

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Can I say one thing    

Can I say one thing     Reload

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I have thought about

I have thought about Reloading quite a few times but what always stops me from getting started is the lack of reloading  supplies availiable here. I would run into the same problem of paying the Haz-mat fee to get the powder and Primers anyway. I also don't get to hunt that often where I need lots of Ammo. I hunt 10-12 times a year if i'm lucky.

 

 

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Reloading

frontier wrote:

I have thought about Reloading quite a few times but what always stops me from getting started is the lack of reloading  supplies availiable here. I would run into the same problem of paying the Haz-mat fee to get the powder and Primers anyway. I also don't get to hunt that often where I need lots of Ammo. I hunt 10-12 times a year if i'm lucky.

 

 

 

                                        Frontier

I wouldn't let the hazmat fee detur me too much.  You can order up to 32 lbs of powder on the same hazmat charge for the powder.  So if you find a couple of other reloaders it isn't that much.  You would have to check on the primers thoe.  But you should be able to find them on the island sooner than later and buy 1000 at a time so that you have them on hand.  Also it isn't just about hunting but finding a load that works in your rifle that is better than what you can buy in the store.  You can also custom loads from full power to a lighter load depending on the animal that you might be hunting. 

I personally might fire a couple of my rifles only 10 times a year but I reload for them.   

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I had the same thing happen

I had the same thing happen back in '96 hunting up in Wyoming.  After that, I switched to a Partition.  I still use ballistic tips on Antelope, but won't use them ever again on anything bigger.

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