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why some cartridges dont make it in the real world

it aint the bullet its the shooter and ya i agree 147. Mr. Cool!

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why some cartridges dont make it in the real world
fuzzybear wrote:
The standard rounds will hold their own. That's all that almost all hunters can handle or the ranges that they can accurately hit anything.

Excellent point!

While magnums can extend the bullet's range when hunting game, most hunters haven't mastered enough skills to shoot well within the range of "standard rounds" (i.e. up 250 - 300 yards).

Magnums do not make-up for inaccuracy! Yes

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why some cartridges dont make it in the real world

I agree.

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why some cartridges dont make it in the real world

The availability of good bullets has had a lot to do with popularity of calibers. The rifle the round was available in has had to do with how they fared.

We will probably see some changes in caliber choices with the innovation of the bonded core and controlled expansion bullets in the last few years. If they build them in calibers that are not in the main stream.
There seem to be a caliber order that these developments are made. I would consider that marketing is a factor.
Smaller calibers are now capable of handling larger game than they were in the past. This trend to faster, stronger, smaller bullets seems to be having an effect on our hunting styles.

Why would you buy a 338-06, a very efficient round. When you can buy a 338wm, an already proven round that throws the same bullet a little faster. Most would go with the 338wm. Why did the 35 whelen it make and the 338-06 is struggling. The .338 bullets have a higher BC and SD and the 338-06 will throw the same weight bullet faster. Of which, it is very unusual, that a smaller caliber will throw a same weight bullet faster than it's larger caliber cousin.

Why buy a 264wm when you can buy a 7mm rem mag. Most would go with the 7 mm version. I don't believe you can even find a 264wm.
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They now have a 260 rem. and the 6.5-.284. Why would a 260 rem and the 6.5-284 gain in popularity and a 264wm stay in the shadow of the 7mm rem mag.
The .264 bullets are leading the pack in long range target accuracy. The 6.5-284 is very popular but, the 284 win. went out about as fast as it came in.

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Thats true but i find guns are like cars in a way you can fall in love with them and never wanna let em go am i not right? So those guns you are talkin about might go outta style for some people but some other people probably love em and have nothing but good things to say about them wouldnt you say just like those cars that people said in the 50s they didnt like but people left em in the garages and look at em today they blow your damn mind thats what i think and know personnally some people dont give a damn what other people think and say some of those guns probably do the same thing if not better hunting in the field and not to mention theres alot of old guys that dont join shooting clubs and competitions that sit at home and watch and never get the chance to show thier skills there is alot more great shooters in the world not known than known. I'd almost bet 1000 bucks up front on that cause i know a couple in my town and ill bet anyone else does too.

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