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Here's a classic example of why you can't trust polls. The attached Rasmussen poll trumpets "Just 53 Percent Say Capitalism Better Than Socialism."

Wow! That sounds like Americans have had it with capitalism and are leaning toward socialism.

But when you start peeling it back, you discover that only 20 percent said socialism is better -- a full 27 percent said they didn't know which is better. It goes on to say that the survey did not define "capitalism" or "socialism."

Furthermore, Rasmussen references an earlier study which showed 70% of Americans prefer a free-market economy. This suggests that there's a significant lack of understanding among the population when it comes to macroeconomics. Generally, speaking, if Americans are asked to make a value judgement between multiple choices that they don't understand, they'll usually pick the one that has "free" in the title because it sounds the most American.

So if a population is being asked to make a value judgement regarding two terms that it doesn't understand, how valid is the survey? The study reflects perception, not understanding.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics...

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The word Socialism is misused all the time so it no longer has meaning.

The right uses it to mean anyone they don't like. Obama, Democratic members of Congress, etc. You yourself use it to describe Nazi's even though we know they were as socialist as any Peoples Democratic Republic is actually democratic or a republic.

Most people have picked up on this branding, (especially younger people look at your poll) and they think, "cool, socialism is like Obama and all those Dems, then I'm for it". When you say socialism, you want to just call people commies, because that was the poliitcal N word of your generation, like calling someone a terrorist. People today don't remember the cold war. They think of Canada and Sweden when they think of socialism.

A few years ago we instituted the largest most expesive social program since Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medicare_Part_D

Just because it is a giveaway of half the money to big pharma no one calls it socialism, but it is. Then there's the 700 billion give away to big banks, (remember Rick Santelli's "we're not going to take it anymore unless of course you mean 700 billion to big banks, we'll take that" on CNBC. The whole tea bagging movement is built on socialism.

If you don't like people misunderstanding socialism, don't misuse the word. Tell people socialism is George Bush, Rick Sanelli, and socializing risk while privitizing proffits and you might see the polls slip the other way.

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We're not misusing the word, Pippin. Uses of "socialism" on this forum have been appropriate, because that's what's going on. Once again you're pulling the "nothing to see here" tactic to try to get people to quiet down and stop resisting.

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why do you keep posting polls on this forum like you're trying to convince us of the validity of some position you're postulating

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Ummm...it's April, not March.

Don't know what your point is with that post. Are you banging your head against the wall because you're stubbornly trying to hold to your personal belief that it's still March?

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Expat wrote,

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Are you banging your head against the wall because you're stubbornly trying to hold to your personal belief that it's still March?

I think he's trying to clear a malfuntion! Tap Rack Civet! The garbage will come out!

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I agree that polls can be skewed. I can find a poll to support any position I wish. Polls are good for entertainment - right up there with Wiki! lol

Expatriate, pangolin/civetcat is banging his head because he can't convince us he's right! Don't you know that when he quotes the almighty Wiki - we are to acquiesce! The frustration of it all has caused the malfunction!

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Expatriate starts a thread claiming polls are meaningles, links to a poll, then accuses me of posting too many polls.

OK

Cowgall I know you can find a "poll" to support any postion you choose, and you do, problem is something that says "click here if you hate Obama" isn't really considered a scientific poll. There's a branch of math called statistics.... oh nevermind.

I link to wiki when you don't seem to even understand the very fundamentals of whatever I'm talking about. I find it's much more polite than shouting GET A CLUE IDIOT. See what I mean. Isn't it much nicer to simply say maybe you should read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_poll

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TAP! RACK! ROLL! Back up on target! You can do it! I know you can!! Laugh

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Too bad he's shooting blanks. SPORTS will only get you so far under such circumstances.

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