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Location: Midwest
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Why Idaho?

Can anyone clue me into why Idaho isn't a "top" state for elk/deer hunting? I know there are a lot of black bear and whitetails. I'm getting the feeling that there are some access problems and quite a bit of hunting pressure....maybe it's because they don't have a preference point system. Anyone know?

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Location: Idaho
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Why Idaho?

... most people don't understand Idaho, even people that live here. Big bulls, and big bucks - there are probably some - but probably more and bigger in other states. The elk population was decimated by the wolves in much of the state over the last decade. But aside from wanting the wolves eradicated, I wouldn't change anything.

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Location: Midwest
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Why Idaho?

Thanks - I love Idaho as well. I don't live there and it is tough to get a feel for the wildlands without spending a lot of time and money (for me).
Thank you for the information - do you have any advice for a good month to visit for an elk scouting trip?

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Location: Idaho
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Why Idaho?

I don't know much about the elk in that area (Elk City) ... but I would think August - or as close to your hunt dates as possible.

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Location: Midwest
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Why Idaho?

I'm planning on a fishing trip into the elk city area - with horses. I'd imagine that the animals in the area will be located in different spots from August to October....any insight?

tim
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Location: north idaho
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Why Idaho?

What is your definition of a big bull. To me anything close to 300 b&c is a dandy. There are plenty of those bulls around here.

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Location: Midwest
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Why Idaho?

I guess I was reading about "record book elk" and idaho has never had a 400" bull. Which makes no difference to me in the least. I am under the impression that either the genetics aren't there or the pressure is high on the bulls.
My overall attitude is that I'd like to see elk in the wild and be able to beat the odds of <25% and actually harvest an elk. Otherwise I'm just as happy being out there enjoying the hunt.

tim
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Location: north idaho
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Why Idaho?

my take on this is this.

Idaho generally manages for lots of hunter oppurtunities, not record book. If you want to harvest record book, put in for utah for 12+ years and if you don't get a 380 or bigger bull you screwed up. But i will go and buy my over the counter tag and get my bull every year. Maybe not a record book, but my bull last year wasn't bad and the 5x5 i got the year before is still a branch antlered bull. There are elk here, but we are so thick(trees) that it is hard to hunt.

i don't think the wolves have decimated the elk, the wolves have changed the habits of the elk. You have to go into the timber. Long gone are the days of just sitting on an open hill side and waiting for them to come to you. You have to put on a lot of miles in the timber up and down. At least that is what has worked for me.

tim

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Location: Midwest
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Why Idaho?

Thanks Tim. Your post is why I'm really enjoying this website. I have a background in science (forestry) and I love to gather information for myself from a variety of sources. It must have been pretty damn tough for hunters to show up in an unfamilar state and connect with a good hunt prior to the internet. It is becoming more of a low cost solution for me...rather than spending thousands of dollars on a guide or spending a decade in the mountains learning the basics. I can get a slow start in my office at home and think about it on my hill climb hikes.
Thank you!

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