One guy......ex pro wrestler......played in a few Arnold movies....and was Governor of Minn.......and you put the stuff he says on a post and talk like he is the final authority while lam-blasting expat and cowgal?

How do you know their beliefs?....from posts on here?...wouldn't you think that to be a little shallow thinking on your part?
pangocat and yourself won't answer a question with facts, if you answer at all.
Usually you guys launch into a name calling, sarcastic fit when challenged so how could you possibly know what their beliefs are?

You now have pango-class.

Wow. You act like I ought to be insulted by being associated with Rush, Hannity, Bush, Cheney, and cowgal.

As for being a "lockstepper", we've been down this road before, SoCo. Say something negative about Obama -- anything at all. How long did that go and how many posts did it take before you could come up with anything?

Here's how it's done:

Bush -- spent too much time trying to appease liberals and forgot what conservatism was when he started spending at the end.

Cheney -- Not the most dynamic personality, and not the safest guy to hunt with.

Rush -- too arrogant

Hannity -- can be a bit too abrasive

See? I can do it. Can you? Let's see some of that independent thought you claim to champion. Say something negative about Obama.

Oh, and by the way -- there's a reason Ventura was a one-term governor. He was all mouth and no common sense. People liked his style and elected him, but soon regretted it.

Hey expat and Cowgal! Can I be in your "lockstep" club too? Can I? Can I huh huh? Puhleeeze? Can I? I promise I won't be too much of a Libertarian!!!

We have one of those in California too. It's called an Arnold. The Gubernator turned out to be a wussinator.

Here you go, Bunny -- the only thing on the internet more annoying than pangoposts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAZWMDWfYC4

For a tough Gal like cowgal who's said such things as follows:

"since obama and most of the democratic majority have their heads stuffed up their butts, what can there be but hindsight? "

"Typical Obamabot response! Don't agree, can't debate - so yo ..."

"I guess your liberal shouting matches are somehow better??? At least the debates on Fox are respectful. Liberals are nasty and vile when they don't get their way. "

"You moron, Gore knows nothing about science. None of his theories are based on science. Real scientists would like to debate Gore, he refuses. "

"Civet this conversation is not for you. We know that you're incapable of thinking for yourself. It amazes me at how people like you bury their heads and pretend its all ok, simply because their leade ..."

"You weren't wrong CVC. In fact, I go one step further and do NOT do business with anyone that is openly liberal. I do not ask what a business's party affiliation is, HOWEVER if they publicize it and a ..."

"civetcat is a troll. We are the problem because we feed him. "

"We should simply ignore him, unless it is a productive post. Of course, that will mean we will ignore him 99.9% of the time. "

"Nice civet and Soco, I see you're both on the gutter level again. Can't find anything to debate about Rush, so you have to resort to trash talk. You two are about as bad as a couple bratty whiney kid ..."

This is part and parcel with the debate round these parts.

I think you all (not cowgal) are acting like a bunch of pretentious whiny drama queens.

The phony indignation at the drop of hat when much worse has been said by the pretentiously ire'd mob is indicative of the phoniness of the current republican party and one of the big reasons it finds itself in it's current state.

Pretentious whiny drama queens? Looks to me like those "drama queens" keep knocking holes in yours and Pango's positions. Shall we go back and compare our posts with the ones you two have put up?

At least the Republicans can stay on message and don't reverse themselves every day.

Have you come up with an independent thought about Obama yet, SoCo?

Yeah, I think the posts in the political forum are a pretty darn accurate photo of all, including me, beliefs who post in here. I guess for some that might be be difficult to ascertain, but anyone past an elementary level education should get it.

Well, I'll take the views of this former Navy Seal, Gov., and rationale man, over those of a spoon fed from a silver platter former cheerleader, gov. and president or a five deferment chickenhawk or an overweight drug addicted radio ham.

Go for it fren!

You to my view have never offered an original thought other the talking points of the repub party which were disseminated to you.

I'll debate you into the ground any day, buddy. You can start by posting a critical thought about Obama. Your last post was #3 on this thread since I issued the challenge.

If you want to debate ability to think independently, put your money where your mouth is. Show that you can do it.