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Why can't I find camo in CO?!?!

I am furious! As an elk hunter, in Colorado, I have no options for purchasing camoflauge clothing, or backpacks. Cabelas, Bass Pro, Sportsmans - NONE have woodland camo. Why is it that theses big-box stores think that everyone is a hillbilly whitetail hunter. If you have a store in Colorado your customers will be elk/mule deer hunters. I guess this is why almost all archery hunter you see are wearing camo with oak leaves... sad.  I guess I will be placing an oreder with ASAT.

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Don't you know that woodland

Don't you know that woodland camo is old style and nobody wears that stuff anymore, even the military gave it the heave-ho a few years ago for their new digital patterns. 

However I still like wearing it and purchase it from army/navy surplus stores.  Check out Arvada Army Navy Surplus just north of I-70 on Wadsworth

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Red and black plaid has

Red and black plaid has worked for me for 6 decades. Scent, and movement is what gets you busted. Play the wind, and don't move. Camo is made to fool humans. (military) Not animals. Deer/elk see everything in shades of yellow.

Hunters are being hustled by the manufacturers. Camo is a joke, and everybody looks like a wannabe Rambo.

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Camo

Still Hunter wrote:

Red and black plaid has worked for me for 6 decades. Scent, and movement is what gets you busted. Play the wind, and don't move. Camo is made to fool humans. (military) Not animals. Deer/elk see everything in shades of yellow.

Hunters are being hustled by the manufacturers. Camo is a joke, and everybody looks like a wannabe Rambo.

 

+1, although I don't believe that camo is a joke.  What you need is a pattern that helps to break up the human outline.  Most camo patterns do this, as does the old red/black or green/black plaids.

Movement and smell are much more critical to wildlife.

Like others have posted, I have had deer, elk, antelope, mountain goats, and bighorn sheep walk up to within a few feet of me. 

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Saw this a time back. The

Saw this a time back.
The testing revealed that deer are basically color blind as we describe it humans. They can’t see red or green. They had two sensitive areas when it comes to color. One was at 537 nanometers or Yellow and one in the short wave length…at the left edge of human vision, at 455 nanometers. This describes the color Blue. They see only Yellow and Blue!
This buck see his world in shades of yellow. He can also see the color blue. Bad news is that UV-Brighteners in your camo reflect light at the exact frequency that coincides with the color blue. You’re Glowing like a blue Popsicle.

Humans have a special filter in our eyes that filters out all ultraviolet or UV light…so we can’t see UV-Blue. But deer can see this color and even more significant they see UV (455nm) at their peak of sensitivity! Interpreted into the real world this becomes especially important to hunters because it means that a deer sees UV-Blue better than we see blaze orange.

HOW DOES UV GET INTO CAMO?

About 15 years ago most US based camo manufacturers had the problem solved by insisting that Southern textile mills not put UV-Brighteners into the base cloth that camo was printed on. Since then the textile industry has moved to China. Today nearly all camo is made in China and they commonly add permanent UV-Brightening dyes to all base cloth. As a result much of the camo reaches our stores with brighteners in it.

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I wouldn't worry about the

I wouldn't worry about the UV-brightners in the clothing either. 

I have been withing finger reach of both deer and elk while wearing either a hunter orange sweatshirt or vest without the animals even having a idea that I was sitting there.  Now if you start to move then you may have problems.

 For my first 20 years of bowhunting I just wore a flanel shirt and levis and had no problem getting close enough for a shot every year.

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I use a UV killer on my blaze

I use a UV killer on my blaze orange. I've been aware of the glow that deer see with UV brightners. It's strongest at low light. Exactly when we're hunting.

Once you spray a UV killer on your clothing you never have to do it again as long as you don't use a detergent that has brightners in it. It's easy to check your clothing with a black light to see if you're glowing.

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I also saw a study about the

I also saw a study about the spectrum of light that deer and elk can see. Seems there is one color that is invisible to them, hot pink. It is made up of 2 wave lengths at opposite ends of that spectrum. I have observed deer on my property. They catch movement. I always try to avoid a silhouette. Never wear a full matching suit of one type of camo. Use camo that has more light or white areas, more like nature. But it comes down to movement and the animals nose. I've walked up on deer in the woods in dappled sunlight and stood still and amazingly they can't see you very well. I've heard because of their eye structure and enhanced night vision that bright sunlight hampers their vision.
I know I've been busted more by their noses than by their eyes over the years. I think the camo clothing is a lot of hype to sell merchandise. I wear more camo heading to the hunt than on the actual hunt, especially elk hunting .

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When i'm hiking in the

When i'm hiking in the mountains with my dog I always hide on him. Sometimes i'm in plain view of him, and if I stand frozen he'll look right past me.

As a still hunter I know the value of staying still. I think I could wear a clown suit, and fool an elk. Move when they're not looking.

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understood.

Thank you so much, everybody,  for your replies and opinions.  I pretty much agree with all of you. I have been in many situations where both elk and deer have been within 5 yards of me and have even been down wind of me and my "Dead Down Wind" products have paid off and rendered me unnoticed.   Camo may very well be trivial, but as an archery elk hunter (with 2 bad knees) I want as much promise and value from every step I take. Also, I feel blessed to have a fantastic woman who, although is from the east coast and has never hunted, has become quite a crack shot with her bow and is anxious for her fist elk hunt, therefore I want to take advantage of every thing that might possibly assist in a successful hunt. With all that being said, and reviewing your input, we may just stettle for cabelas offerings. 

Thanks everybody! 

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