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Who's deer does it belong to?

On thanksgiving day of this year we were hunting at our hunting club in Orange county Virginia. It was getting late in the after noon when we decided to make one more drive.we Jumped up a huge Buck Two of my hunting club mates shot at deer hitting it on the left side. The deer was wounded they started tracking a big blood trail when anouther club member came over raidio and said he help track it.The Deer kept jumbing up and running and falling over agin.The member that said he whould help track the deer was abel too get to him first he shot the deer one time and claimed it was his.Now I feel that the deer was wouned badly and had no chance to live after the first two hunters shot it.so I feel that its there deer too share not the hunter that said he would help track it.I feel the one hunter is being unethical and showing poor sportsman ship about this I have two young Sons see this all unfold and has got pretty ugly with the members of the hunting club.I am not any of the hunters that shot at the deer.I am how ever upset about the event that has takin place.I just wanted to have a safe place to take my two son to hunt. I would like to here on anyone opinion on this.Thank You for your time

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Who's deer is it anyway?

I'd say technically the deer belongs to the man who took the last shot and finally killed the deer. However I feel that the three men should share the meat and the rack goes to the guy who killed the deer. Personally if I were assisting a buddy track wounded game and I spotted the wounded deer I would have called my buddy over so he could finish the deer himself. Sounds like this guy is a glory hog with no class.

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Who's deer does it belong to?

HELP TRACK IT
What part of help doesn't he understand. He may loose some friends over this incident. Not the type of person I would like to hunt with, and who in their right mind would ever ask him for help again.

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Who's deer does it belong to?

A "club" should have bi-laws (or at least a majority agreement) about this exact situation. All the clubs and groups hat I have hunted with the rule has always been, whoever puts the first bullet into the deer taggs it and gets the head and hide. The meat is evenly divided up between the hunting party.

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logical

ADKBEAR wrote:
A "club" should have bi-laws (or at least a majority agreement) about this exact situation. All the clubs and groups hat I have hunted with the rule has always been, whoever puts the first bullet into the deer taggs it and gets the head and hide. The meat is evenly divided up between the hunting party.

Sounds like a pretty logical method to me as long as the state allows it.

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Who's deer does it belong to?

If the situation played out as you have described it, legal possession is in doubt. I have seen this scenario play out many times in my game warden job. Let me tell you what happens when I got called to these scenes. We investigate the incident along with all and I do mean all the circumstances including the legal aspects. Then when it comes down to whose deer it is the answer is it is the states deer and not anyone's until legal take is established. If a hunter or hunters establish a "probable" kill shot (which very well could be a shot that needed following up on, and finished) that hunter or hunters will get the deer. If the kill cannot be determined beyond a reasonable doubt then the interested parties are given about 15 minutes to decide if they want to split it or not. If they cannot agree....the deer goes to the food shelve and no one gets the antlers...sometimes you just need to call the folks who enforce the laws...Not all laws and not all states are the same, call the state.
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Who's deer does it belong to?

this makes me upset,I am sorry I am not in your region but when I seen this I had to reply,I have never heard of that crap going on here,if you shoot a deer reguardless of how the shot was it's your deer,the follow up is just to ensure that the animal suffers as little as possible.This is one of the most unethical hunters I have read about in a while.how can someone justify taking clam to a wounded animal unless you spotted it out hunting and did it for ethical reason,say for instance the deer was not being tracked and would not survive.back in 2000 My friend shot a top record book blacktail hit it threw the top of the back an unfatal shot probly and I shot it as a follow up dropping it and I never had a thought in my mind of claiming that buck.A hunter is a person whole goes out and ethicly tries to harvest game.this guy is the same guy who will poach a deer in the headlights on the highway out of season and try to put it in the books.I would slander this guys name in every hunting shop and outdoor forum till he has no desire to hunt anymore

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Who's deer does it belong to?

I also believe that the club should have some type of written procedure for when this may happen. As far as the Hunter, offering to help track then claiming the deer for his own is just plain wrong. I would have insisted on a call to the local game warden and let them figure it out. In any case a disturbing turn of events.
I am sorry your kids witnessed this whole thing.

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in my personal opinion i think that the 2 who shot it first should get it, from my own personal experiences i have finished of a couple deer for friends of mine and always ended up giving the animal to them. one such occasion a former friend of mine hunted an area the night before i did and shot/wounded a doe, i hunted the piece the next morning and let him know when i left for lunch so he could go in and look for his deer, he looked to no avail and i returned for the evening hunt, while walking to my stand i found the deer, finished it off, drug it out and then called the person who shot it the night before so he could take it. he is not a former friend because he ended up with the animal but because of the fact he had an opportunity to finish off the animal himself the first night and "didn't want to waste a rage on it". that in my opinion was unethical and i try to stay away from people that i wouldn't want my hopeful children to be around.

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Who's deer does it belong to?

Legally, in most states the person who actually kills the animal and takes control of the animal is the owner of the animal. However, the action described by Eddie in his post would be considered unethical by most hunters. Depending on exact circumstances, A Conservation Officer might might give the animal to the initial shooter if the animal was clearly about to die and the last shooter appeared to shoot last in an attempt to claim the animal. I have had the occasion to finish off a wounded animal and never attempted to claim it as my kill.

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Who's deer does it belong to?
ADKBEAR wrote:
A "club" should have bi-laws (or at least a majority agreement) about this exact situation. All the clubs and groups hat I have hunted with the rule has always been, whoever puts the first bullet into the deer taggs it and gets the head and hide. The meat is evenly divided up between the hunting party.

I agree 100%
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