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Who is the most pro-gun presidential candidate?
WesternHunter wrote:
Duncan Hunter or Tom Tancredo would also be your man.

Look I know I've said some crap about Tancredo on this forum regarding other subjects, but he is one pro-American and pro-gun politician. I'll give him that!

And neither have a chance at the presidency.

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Come ON NRA

I can not waite to see what the NRA has to say to the one they vote for. I can almost promiss it will not be another 4 years for the Clintons. One thing to think of maybe if the Clintons get in maybe they will bring all the stuff back the took when they left. Like the China and W's off the computer keys.
Also wonder what Hillery would charge to stay with her in the Whitehouse. Bill charged $5,000 a night.

Troy Brick Wall,)

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I think this is going to be the most media-influenced election in history. Political positions aren't the important thing -- it's what the media says is important. Hillary is the Media Party's candidate -- they absolutely won't say anything negative about her or pay any attention to the incredible amount of easy political pickings surrounding her. Her front-runner status in my opinion is a product of media complicity. I also wouldn't be surpised if Edwards and Obama aren't there to be screens for her -- spout off opinions that she can hitchhike on if they're well received, and condemn if they aren't. The remarkable result is that she's a front-runner who contradicts herself constantly depending on which audience she's in front of, and who won't take a stance on anything -- and the media won't call her on it. Half of the country has already said that they won't vote for Hillary no matter what, so I have to wonder how much of the Obama-Edwards vote is anti-Hillary vs pro Obama-Edwards.

On the other side, the media stays latched on to McCain, even though he's basically dead in campaign terms. But the media loves him because he's unelectable -- Dems don't like him because he's pro-war Republican, and Republicans don't like him because he's gone over to the dark side too much. You don't hear much about Romney, because I think he scares the media to death -- he's a Republican who won the governorship in perhaps the most left-wing state in the Union. That's a message the left can't afford to get out. So the media focuses on his religion and won't say much positive about him. Giuliani works well with the media because he's entertaining, but they generally make it a point to publish something negative with those moments to keep it in perspective.

Bottom line is that it has little to do with positions like gun control. The media is there to attract viewers and readers, and they do it by creating drama. So they can only pay attention to 2-3 people at a time, to play up the competition. That's why you don't hear about anybody but the top 2-3 per party. At this point, I think the media is trying to bill it as Hillary vs. Giuliani, which they would love because of the NY connection and its associated media market and electoral votes. But they can't mess with primary results too much. So we'll see how they handle January -- especially if Romney wins.

As far as gun control goes, Thompson is probably the closest thing to a front runner that's a solid 2nd Amendment supporter. But nobody's going to make it an issue because it's worked against the Democrats. Make no mistake about it, though -- if the Dems win the White House and control both the House and Senate, it'll be back with a vengance. Say hello to more background checks, bans, purchase limits, fees, licensing, and requirements for storage.

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Who is the most pro-gun presidential candidate?

I have voted for Republicans since 1980 and will continue to do so. If we value our rights and wish to see them continue there is no alternative. Conservatives are the ones standing up for our rights. We have been overrun by politicians and are in desperate need of statesmen.

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have you all notice that the Senators that is running for President talk about President Bush approval ratings but you never here the news medai talk about congress it is at 11% approval rating. Amazing and they want to be incharge!

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Just a bit of trivia...

The last sitting senator to be elected president was Warren G. Harding in 1920. Not to say it can't happen -- the Red Sox have won the World Series twice. But it'll be interesting to see if the trend continues.

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Who is the most pro-gun presidential candidate?

The media is no longer a monolith controlling all news as it formerly was. For instance, many people get their news not from ABC/NBC/CBS but from the DrudgeReport. I do. With the coming of cable television and the Internet, the big 3 broadcast networks do not have a lock on news. Thus, ABC/NBC/CBS are not going to call the shots on whether Hillary is nominated/elected or not. This is not to say that this means Hillary won't be nominated/elected, just that it is not a decision materially swayed by ABC/NBC/CBS.

Geoge Bush has not been a pro-gun stalwart. It may not be the case that any electable Republican presidential candidate will be a pro-gun stalwart such as we may wish to see. Frankly, there are too many other issues that the Republicans focus on, there is little in the way of a principled, idealistic Republican politician anymore. On the other hand, Bush moved two originalists onto the Supreme Court, and the ruling of the Supreme Court on the Washington DC gun ban may have more influence on gun rights and prospects for making new gun laws than anything elected presidents, senators, and/or representatives have to say. I would be very happy with a strong, precedent setting supreme court ruling supporting the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right rather than a collective right of miltias. That would be a big comfort to me and the principle road block to confiscating and removing our gun rights.

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I've got to differ with you on the media. Do some checking on media ownership and you'll find that the vast majority of media is concentrated in very few hands. As for the news, most national stories come across wire services like AP, which has become notoriously politicized. If you're a reporter that wants broad publication, you have to get on AP. And you don't get on AP unless you write a story they find appealing to their tastes. So it gets slanted on both ends -- the editors who pick what they want to present, and the reporters who slant the stories to make them more appealing to the editors.

Yes, the internet is becoming a threat to big media's monopoly, but all of a sudden you're seeing more discussion about resurrecting the fairness doctrine and regulation of the internet, aren't you? It' s amazing what you can get away with if you use labels like "hate speech" and insinuate that sinister right wing forces are excluding people.

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Who is the most pro-gun presidential candidate?

RON PAUL, congressman from Texas. http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

This is worth reading.

This is his statement directly from his campaign web site on:

The 2nd Amendment

I share our Founders’ belief that in a free society each citizen must have the right to keep and bear arms. They ratified the Second Amendment knowing that this right is the guardian of every other right, and they all would be horrified by the proliferation of unconstitutional legislation that prevents law-abiding Americans from exercising this right.

I have always supported the Second Amendment and these are some of the bills I have introduced in the current Congress to help restore respect for it:

H.R. 1096 includes provisions repealing the Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act and the Federal Firearms License Reform Act of 1993, two invasive and unconstitutional bills.

H.R. 1897 would end the ban on carrying a firearm in the National Park System, restoring Americans’ ability to protect themselves in potentially hazardous situations.

H.R. 3305 would allow pilots and specially assigned law enforcement personnel to carry firearms in order to protect airline passengers, possibly preventing future 9/11-style attacks.

H.R. 1146 would end our membership in the United Nations, protecting us from their attempts to tax our guns or disarm us entirely.

In the past, I introduced legislation to repeal the so-called “assault weapons” ban before its 2004 sunset, and I will oppose any attempts to reinstate it.

I also recently opposed H.R. 2640, which would allow government-appointed psychiatrists to ban U.S. veterans experiencing even mild forms of Post-Traumatic Stress Syndrome from ever owning a gun.

You have the right to protect your life, liberty, and property. As President, I will continue to guard the liberties stated in the Second Amendment.

END

At first, I thought his position on the United Nations was a bit wacko. But is it really? I'm not so sure. What do you guys think?

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Who is the most pro-gun presidential candidate?

check out Mike Huckabee his record and comments seem like he could be a good choice with a chance to win,but we the guys on the street need to pick one and work for him,or get ready to sing hale to the chief to Hillery