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Which rifle is the most accurate?

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I personaly think the 220 swift is the most accurate and fastes rifle on the market these days. It depends on how far you are shooting really.
The answer has nothing to do with caliber but how much are you will to spend on a rifle. I have sold .308 rifles that group at .14-.17" at a 100 yards. That rifle goes for around $2700.00. More bucks spent..,,more accurate
It also has a lot to do with the scope and the person shooting the gun.

 

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I am finding it hard to

I am finding it hard to follow some of your posts, but from what I see, you answered your own question with the last line.  I think it all depends on the optics, and more importantly, the skill of the shooter.  You could have someone take a $100 rifle and a $50 scope and drive tacks all day long, and give someone a $1500 rifle with a $750 scope, and they can't get it on target.

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I have a old 03 .30-06

I have a old 03 .30-06 Springfield that was built way before anyone here on this forum was born that I paid $20.00 for and put a Weaver 4x scope on it and it will out shoot your $2700.00 rifle all day at 100 yards and even up to 200 yards.  Not to mention out doing your 220 Swift.  I'll even get the Ruger #1 .22-250 out and take you up to 400 yards without spending that kind of money.  Then if you want to go to 600 yards + I'll drag out my .340 Weatherby.  Now the thing is that I didn't spend more than $1000.00 on either the .22-250 or the Weatherby. 

Money does not equal accuracy.  It is the shooter along with the right combination of powder, bullet, case, and primer for that rifle that will make it accuract. 

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How is the 30-06 compared to

How is the 30-06 compared to the 30-30?  My dad has a Springfield bolt action 30-30, and I was just talking about it with a buddy not 10 minutes ago.  My dad loves that Springfield.

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.30-30

Ca_Vermonster wrote:

How is the 30-06 compared to the 30-30?  My dad has a Springfield bolt action 30-30, and I was just talking about it with a buddy not 10 minutes ago.  My dad loves that Springfield.

Unless you hand load the 06 will walk all over the .30-30 witch is restricted to round nose bullets from the factory.  Now if you hand load the .30-30 with spitzer bullets you will increase the accuracy but not up to the 06, mostly because of the case design 

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WHAT the ???

steven_seamann wrote:

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I personaly think the 220 swift is the most accurate and fastes rifle on the market these days. It depends on how far you are shooting really.
The answer has nothing to do with caliber but how much are you will to spend on a rifle. I have sold .308 rifles that group at .14-.17" at a 100 yards. That rifle goes for around $2700.00. More bucks spent..,,more accurate
It also has a lot to do with the scope and the person shooting the gun.

I have to wonder just what you are asking or what you're intent is here. Points? It has zero basis as a question or as a subject sane people might discuss. Are you drunk? Have you ever really fired the cartridges you are asking  about? Sorry but I'm completely lost on this! (subject??)

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Agreed

Tndeerhunter wrote:

steven_seamann wrote:

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I personaly think the 220 swift is the most accurate and fastes rifle on the market these days. It depends on how far you are shooting really.
The answer has nothing to do with caliber but how much are you will to spend on a rifle. I have sold .308 rifles that group at .14-.17" at a 100 yards. That rifle goes for around $2700.00. More bucks spent..,,more accurate
It also has a lot to do with the scope and the person shooting the gun.

I have to wonder just what you are asking or what you're intent is here. Points? It has zero basis as a question or as a subject sane people might discuss. Are you drunk? Have you ever really fired the cartridges you are asking  about? Sorry but I'm completely lost on this! (subject??)

I have to agree it is just a post to get the quick points.

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To address some of the

To address some of the original post, I agree and disagree with some of the info.  The .220 swift is one of the fastest, if not the fastest cartridge out there.  Hard to say what wildcats cartridges are out there and what speeds they are pushing but the .220swift is fast.  Accuracy... well that is a subjective thing.  I always look at benchrest competitions to see what people use when you talk accuracy and at the world levels there is not a .220 swift following.  It holds its own with all the .22 caliber cartridges but fails to maintain that status when you put it up against BR favorites like the 6PCC.  As the range gets longer the caliber tends to get larger to coup with wind.   I also have a .220swift and it is an expensive custom made rifle based on the 700 but with match hart barrel and timney trigger group with all the bedding work and machining done on it.  It is an extremely accurate rifle.  It is .220 swift, expensive and accurate but I don't think you can group it together that easily.  Almost any cartridge used in a custom rifle similar to the above is going to be extremely accurate.  I have a 6mm Rem rifle similar to the above but with not as much work done on it, and it will out shoot the .220 swift.  Now as far as price,  both the rifles I mentioned are fairly expensive and accurate but we must not forget the $400-600 savages out there that will hold their own with rifles costing 5 times as much.

So....

.220 swift- fastest cartridge... maybe(damn close if it isn't)

.220 swift- most accurate (very accurate but not the most accurate)

more expensive rifles shoot better... a lot of the time this can be true but there is always exceptions with price not being the only factor involved

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Let me help screw up what is

Let me help screw up what is already a goat ****.

The original post started off - "what is the most accurate rifle" (and then went, in an incredibly rapid fashion, downhill from there)...

I will tell you what the most accurate rifle is.

It is a well maintained and properly functioning rifle with decent glass in:

.308

Or .270

Or 30-06

Or 7mm Mag

Or .17

It is the one that YOU can shoot confidently and have an unyeilding faith in. Faith that was born of repeatedly exercising the fundamentals such as good form, a proper cheek weld, proper breathing, good finger control and the complete package of "execution".

A competent shooter (and I think there are some deadly ones on this forum) with a decent rifle set up will completely destroy a poor marksman and I do not give a rats behind what he paid for the rifle... IMHO

I am a relatively poor marksman and I know it... I struggle to shoot MOA and it is only with repetitive shooting and really concentrating can I defeat the demons of "big groups".

Now, I will start another post that will stir some controversy - but at least I hope it does not go off as badly as this one did! Coming right up....

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Depends on the day of the

Depends on the day of the week and who's doing the shooting.

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