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Which One?

Need some advice.
I have a 25-06 that I'm using for deer and antelope this year. I also have a .300 Win Mag. I'm considering a 270 WSM as an intermediate gun between the two. I hunt the western United States and shots tend to be long at times. Long for me is out to 500 Yards.
The max distance I will use the 25-06 on antelope is 350 Yards. I'd like to move the 25-06 in to the predator catagory and use it for coyotes mostly as I can't get a bullet heavier than 87 Grains to stabilize in that rifle but for this year it's what I got so it's what I'll use. The .300 Win Mag is more than I care to shoot most days. I think the .270 Winchester needs some help, and the WSM certainly does that. I'm also not fond of the 30-06 and it's "rainbow" trajectory although I do like that it uses heavier bullets. The other option is a 7mm WSM but I'm not too thrilled with it from a ammo availability standpoint.
I've selected the platform and need to select the caliber.
What say you all?

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Your gonna find that at 500

Your gonna find that at 500 yds, everything has a rainbow trajectory. Suprised that the 25-06 won't stablize anything iover 87grs. Sounds to me like you already have everything covered with the 300 and 25-06, assuming yiou can get a better game bullet shooting. Everything inbetween is simply leaning toward one or the other and they will all do what you want with a proper bullet and well placed shot.

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I hate magnums...but

I'm not a fan of magnums period; but objectively that's probably more crochetiness than any valid point. I agree with Don that anything at that range will have significant hold over. I would opt for a long barrelled 30-06 and a lighter bullet or a varmit model .270 personally, but as stated originally I hate magnums...but

If you have your heart set on it a .270 WSM will deliver the results you're looking for, except you might be disappointed with the trajectory at 500yds.

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I'm more willing to trade bullet size for trajectory as bullet construction has improved.  The part that sealed it for me was getting better penetration in a brown bear at 115 yards with a 180 gr TSX out of a .300 WSM than my buddy got at 75 yards with a 200 gr Accubond out of a .325.  Weight retention makes a huge difference, and today's premium bullets can enable lighter rounds to perform at a higher level.

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I too like the better

I too like the better designed bullets of today and think they propel the smaller, some say "lesser" calibers, in to a whole new realm.

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Use the 220gr bullets in your

Use the 220gr bullets in your 30-06 and take a couple shots
at the ranges you think you will be shooting game.Then see were and how much more you have to adjust your scope compared to your 300wm. And there is no rainbow trajectory, because bullets fall down from gravity only reason they go up is because your shooting up for the bullet drop.
Remington core lokts claim 80%+ bullet weight retention.

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/547799/remington-express-ammunition-30-...
$22 a box and reviews people saying the dropping moose, zebra's, warthog's. Sound like they pack a punch

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Right track

I think your thoughts on the .270WSM are right on line! It would make an excellent entry in your battery, between the baby '06 and a .300WM. The .270WSM is a very flat shooting round, nearly on a par with the .270WBY. I own a .270WSM in a Model Seven Whitetail version and think it's a great rifle with very moderate recoil. If I were to choose a rifle from all those I own for an antelope hunt (or mule deer for that matter) the .270WSM would be right at the top of the list of my choices.

I'm curious as to what platform you have already settled on, if you don't mind telling us. Best of luck and I think you made an excellent choice in the .270WSM. Thumbs up

 

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I'm partial to the Winchester Model 70 Action, and it's variants.

I'll still get a 270 WSM for grins and giggles but I picked up a .308 Winchester version of the rifle I was looking at for a good price. I couldn't pass it up.

http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mi...

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good choice

BikerRN wrote:
I'm partial to the Winchester Model 70 Action, and it's variants. I'll still get a 270 WSM for grins and giggles but I picked up a .308 Winchester version of the rifle I was looking at for a good price. I couldn't pass it up. http://www.winchesterguns.com/products/catalog/detail.asp?family=001C&mid=535115

 

I'm a huge fan of the M70 and own 4 or 5 at this time. No M70 .308, however, but do have a couple '06s and a .270. Glad to hear you found a good one in .308, it should work well for you. Good Luck!

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Never cared for Winchester

Never cared for Winchester but I like the looks of that one. 

I think a .300wsm would fit me nicely. Big smile

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For a 300 WSM I think I'll go with a FN, Winchester's parent company.