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Which caliber is the most over rated.

There seems to be lots of opinions about which caliber is best but now which one do you fiqure is over rated for open country deer hunting. eye roll

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

Over rated?I guess that depends on whos opinion you are listening to,I believe the manufacturers overate thier new Ultra mags making them sound like the next generation of firearms technology when thier performance is very comparable to cartridges that have existed for many years.As far as people go i know a few gun smiths here locally who have a wildcat cartridge they are trying to get into production that they insist is the greatest ever,nevermind the fact that half the expended brass gets stuck in the chamber due to neck splitting.

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

My mistake what i meant was what caliber do you think people consider a top notch deer round but maybe it isn't that great according to you or others.Now i don't mean .30-30 and such as their really made for bush work.I realize people's opinions will vari greatly but it should be a lively debate.

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

The caliber that ends with magnum in the nomenclature.

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Location: Rivers,Manitoba,Canada
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Which caliber is the most over rated.

A little recoil shy are we ??.Well since i was the one who started this i'll go first by saying the .243 is not what i'd consider a great open country deer rifle.Now before you grab the tar and feathers i've seen deer cleanly hit at 250 to 300 yds.with the .243 that took off like the guy had missed.The .243 just doesn't have the punch to anchor a big buck (in my opinion) at ranges the .270 /30-06 class can.Fire away boys.

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

I believe the 243 is still the 5th biggest seller in these 48.
Markmanship, I say it's marksmanship. That would be the answer.

Nor does it have the punch of the belted rounds.
What is your point on this?

That was a safe call.
You have compared the 243 to the #1 and #2 sellers in these 48.

The most overrated round would be any one of these new supermag's. Totally unnecessary for these 48, including these thin skinned, light boned deer that are terrorizing our forests.

The exception is where I'm hunting, not what. I wouldn't carry a 243 in bear country.

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Location: Rivers,Manitoba,Canada
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Which caliber is the most over rated.

The point is what caliber do people feel is over rated ?I compared the .243 to the # 1 and # 2 best sellers since they are the most easily recognized rounds for comparision. As far as needing the belted rounds for deer hunting in open country the 7mm rem.mag sure puts them down and since i don't feel like trailing a wounded deer around half the day i'll stay away from the small bores.You know we have people up here out trying to hunt the big boys with .22 centrefires (you guess what the result is most of the time).Marksmanship will only get you so far but if you havn't got the punch when you hit the kill zone (bye,bye bucky). 8)

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

Because it is a best seller it cant be overated?lol Im sure at one time the ford pinto was one of thier best sellers also.I have had antelope hit square in the shoulder with a .243 run off like it didnt even bother them,it is not a long range round no matter what you are shooting(big game).As far as long range deer guns go i would say the 7mag is one of the best and the most overated is the 7mm ultra mag.

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

I have a good friend that lives in the Dakota's(North) and some of the monsters he's taken down there i wouldn't describe as thin skinned or thin boned.He uses the 7mm rem.mag.for all big game and agrees the.243 just doesn't have the punch (in his opinion).

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

The 7rem mag is also in the top 5 sellers.
Let me guess. The right answer is anything that's not one of the top 4 best sellers.
They are the best sellers because, they work for the task at hand.

Ha Ha. The pinto did the task at hand. It got a person to and from his job. Economically inexpensive. Hence, a best seller. Were there better vehicles or modes of transportation? Again, what is your point.

I'd take a 20 inch barreled, 6 and a half pound 308 over a 24 or 26 inch barreled, 8 1/2 to 10 pound 7mag.
Both of these are in the best seller list.
We are talking deer? Where the greatest danger are the ants, that get in the food that was left out.

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Which caliber is the most over rated.

First of all the 243 was designed for long range, open country hunting of game like antelope, deer, mountain goat and other light, thin skinned game, and that is exactly what whitetail and mule deer are, regardless of where they are. I think over-rated could be defined as all these new monsters that are coming out of which none shoots under 3100 fps with a bullet between 165 and 200 grains. Every hunting magazine you read, you have these advertisers talking about sub-MOA groups every time, when in reality, most bolt-action rifles chambered for any modern hunting cartridge is capable of exactly the same accuracy. I remember reading somewhere that the 308 Winchester is considered the most inherently accurate 30 caliber in North America. I doubt that's changed any between the time that was written and now. Yes, the 7mm Remington Magnum is a fantastic cartridge, it hits harder than a 30-06 and shoots flatter than a 270, but on deer-sized game, that doesn't mean a whole lot. The smaller 7mm-08 and 308 Winchester certainly kick less. Neither delivers the authority of the 7 Mag at long range, but since in the real world most shots at deer are less than 250 yards, it doesn't make too much difference. You can hold center with all three, provided you have a 200-yard zero. Personally, I think a better topic would be most UNDER-RATED. As for the 243 Winchester not having enough punch, that's just stupid. Out to 300 yards, the 243 is as good a deer cartridge as any.

Aside from this, I have heard about a number of deer that ran quite a ways after being struck by 180 grain bullets from a 300 Jarrett, which is similar to a 300 Weatherby Mag.

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