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The problem with long

The problem with long distance shooting is that when someone makes a 300 yard shot on a animal by the time that he tells the story it turn into a 900 yard one with a 60mph cross wind.  I have a friend that claims that his 7mm Remington mag will shoot out to 600 yards with only a 6" hold above where he wants to hit.  He doesn't believe the ballistic charts and says that they were made up so many years ago that they are no longer valid. 

My two longest shots that I have ever tried were at 749 yards and 787 yards and both were checked with a range finder.  The 749 yard one was on a deer on the last day of the season.  He was feeding in a field with no possible way to get any closer and with me knowing where my rifle was sighted in at I took the shot with a one shot kill.  The other was on a elk, same type of situation.  After I took the first shot he turned 180 degrees.  I asked my "spotter" if I had hit him but he didn't say a thing so I took the second shot.  Both shots hit the elk right where I planned on it hitting, the first shot would of done the job but like all elk he just didn't know that he was dead. 

Now with both rifles that I was using I do a lot of shooting with them at 600 yards and one of my favorite things to do with either of them was to hunt ground squirrels at a long range.  I knew where both of the rifles would shoot the load that I was shooting and felt comfortable with all the shots.  Now after saying that I don't think that the average hunter that goes out once or twice a year to shoot his rifle should try anything over 400 yards.  Once you start to shoot where you have to use Kentucky windage to aim at you should put the rifle down and find another animal

Also as for what the military is now using for long range sniping take a look at the .50 BMG round and the .338 mags.  Both are becoming more and more common in the sniping game and have fantastic long range performance.  But snipers work in two man teams, one shooting and the other is the spotter and will tell the shooter what he needs to do to correct his point of aim for a hit.  Even the British or Canaidan sniper that took out a target at 1 1/2 miles needed 3 shots to hit his target.  

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I think we're getting a bit

I think we're getting a bit off track discussing the merit's of long range shooting at game animals. But at least it hasn't got crazy with name calling ect. If that does happen this thred will close. Gotta compliment you guy's on keeping this sane.

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keeping it sane

Don Fischer wrote:

I think we're getting a bit off track discussing the merit's of long range shooting at game animals. But at least it hasn't got crazy with name calling ect. If that does happen this thred will close. Gotta compliment you guy's on keeping this sane.

And that's after 5 pages worth of posts.  lol

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My dads rule

I shot this deer, clear the heck across this canyon, about 9am, by 2:30 the thing was in the truck.

It was a good 500 or so yards and it was a lucky shot, I think, the bullet expanded perfectly, but after that I live with my dads rule, rest his soul, shoot the thing just before it crosses the road, so you can drive to it, Thats my new rule. One time I shot the deer right in the road, he cussed me,,"Now we have to move it to drive by"

I shot em with high power rifle at 500 and  so on, but nothing more fun than the 250 yard shot with a 50 cal ball.

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right in the road?

Little Bull wrote:

I shot this deer, clear the heck across this canyon, about 9am, by 2:30 the thing was in the truck.

It was a good 500 or so yards and it was a lucky shot, I think, the bullet expanded perfectly, but after that I live with my dads rule, rest his soul, shoot the thing just before it crosses the road, so you can drive to it, Thats my new rule. One time I shot the deer right in the road, he cussed me,,"Now we have to move it to drive by"

I shot em with high power rifle at 500 and  so on, but nothing more fun than the 250 yard shot with a 50 cal ball.

You shot a deer in the road?  With a firearm? It's illegal (at least in my state) to discharge a firearm within 50 feet either side of the centerline of a road.

Good deal making that clean shot at 500yrds.  Sometimes it can end up being longer on foot though.  Seen that happen before. Big smile

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Test

Here's a test for anyone contemplating long range shooting:

Go to the range and get prone with your pack as a rest. Now put one bullet in your rifle and hit a metal silohette game target at whatever distance you deem appropriate.

Now go home.

When you can do that consistantly, every time, no sight in shots, walking the shot in, etc, you have found your distance. Turkey silohettes at 400+ Yards is a stretch for me right now but the 300 - 400 Yard javelinas are doable.

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