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What kind of rifle, scope and

What kind of rifle, scope and bullets are you using for that distance?

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What kind of rifle, scope and bullets are you using for that distance?

custom rifle, .338 EDGE, 300 SMK, nightforce.

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I had never heard of the .338

I had never heard of the .338 EDGE so i looked it up.  Learn something new everyday.  Why did you choose this caliber?

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I would feel good out to 1200 yards on elk size game. 1000 on deer size and smaller.

 

Okay  Confused

I don't know of any military snipers who can hit groups inside the size of a paper plate at those distances, let alone cleanly take a game animal at that range.  In fact a lot of those guys will tell you that precise hits at those ranges were once in a lifetime shots.  Sure they can hit a deer sized target at those distances, but with no garantee of hitting right directly in the vitals at that range.  Plus you're bullet has lost a lot of energy at that range.  It's called hunting not sniping. Funny thing about hunting is that the whole idea of it is to get as close as possible to your quarry.  A good hunter should be able to get to within 200 yards of a deer or elk, 300 yrds to 400 yrds for pronghorn and some mule deer.  If you can't then you need to seriously rethink your hunting strategy. 

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I choose that caliber because

I choose that caliber because I wanted a cartrige that I could get a high BC bullet for to greatly improve my down range performance. With the heavy bullet and high bc value I can really cut the wind down range so to increase my odds.

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Please keep in mind I am not

Please keep in mind I am not questioning your judgement...just picking your brain because I've never heard of this caliber before.  It makes sense about the bc, but don't the other .338 calibers offer the same bc or don't they?

I am just intrigued by the subtle differences in various calibers and why one is chosen over another.

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Please keep in mind I am not questioning your judgement...just picking your brain because I've never heard of this caliber before.  It makes sense about the bc, but don't the other .338 calibers offer the same bc or don't they?

I am just intrigued by the subtle differences in various calibers and why one is chosen over another.

 

Yes you can get same bullets for other .338 cartriges. But the length of the bullet will limit amount of powder in case. I was just going to do the 338 RUM, but barrel maker had this cartridge in a blank already. Its a 300 RUM necked up. It will give about 100 FPS more then the 338 rum and similar results as the 338 Lapua. 100 Fps isn't much but at a 1000+ it does make a big diffrence. Example current load I am getting 2253 FP at a 1000 yards and 45.43" wind drift with 10 mph at 90* now 100 fps slower the bullet will drop 17.04" more only have 2073 fp and drift 2" more.

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Thanks...interesting insight

Thanks...interesting insight into the caliber.

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It depends entirely on the load that I am shooting and what game I am shooting at.  I regularly shoot a #4MK1 SMLE British .303 full military stock.  I load my own rounds because I can not get the variety of wieghts of bullets in factory loads.  I have taken 400 yd shots with a 125 gr. Spitzer at an antelope and hit it, but had some scope problems that caused me not to kill it.  My girlfiend took the animal at about 200 yards shooting a similar #4MK1 SMLE with a Monte Carlo stock, so between the two of us, we were able to havest the goat.  I would feel comfortable shooting that round up to 600+ yds at a standing antelope and know I could hit it with my new scope setup. 

As for my deer load in the same rifle, 150gr. spitzer, I have taken game at 200 yards, but I haven't had a chance to shoot that round at much longer range then that.  I think I could easily push that round out to about 350 - 400 yds without a problem.

My heavy loads that I use in thick, wooded hunting is a 174gr Hornady RN that I have sized for a total range of 175 to 200 yds.  In those kind of conditions, that's more than enough range for brush cutters.

I carry all 3 rounds with me when I hunt and use the load that fits the particular hunting situation.  I have determined how much of a hold I need on the given rounds and what range I feel comfort with each.  

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I'm curious as to why you

I'm curious as to why you carry all three loads with you? Also how is the point of impact between them. Seems like one would hit dead on then another here and othere there. They all produce a diffrent harmonic vibration that would affect POI. Seems like you would be better off sticking with the load in the middle as it would kill anything you shot, not that the others wouldnt.

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