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Location: Southern Virginia
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What's your favorite brush gun?

I was curious as to what kind of gun you use around thick and semi-thick cover, such as around swamps and thickets. I hunt from treestands that over-look swampland. So far, the old 870 magnum has worked well, but I have been thinking about a 44 magnum carbine. Lots of money for even a used one, though. I have a couple of 30-30's, but want a little heavier caliber. Any ideas?

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Location: Muskoka Ontario
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What's your favorite brush gun?

My SKS has done me well for up to 100 yards about as far as you can see through the hunting bush were I hunt.
F.K.

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Location: Pipestone, MN
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What's your favorite brush gun?

I still use my single shots. I know there's the argument for fast follow up shot,,,,,but. The way I look at it, if I miss or hit some over looked obstruction, chance of me getting off a clean second round are slimmer than the first,,,waaay slimmer. I will however generally be using the Encore, and switch to one of the shorter barrels in case I actually get down deep into the thick stuff.
As to caliber, I have had varing results.

Dave

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Location: Upper Peninsula of Michigan
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What's your favorite brush gun?

Go to the Black Bear thread and read the post on the new .338 Marlin Express.
That should be just the ticket for what you want - lever actions are fast and the 200 gr .338 bullet would have tremendous knock down power.

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Location: Misouri
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What's your favorite brush gun?

thurdy thurdy

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What's your favorite brush gun?

I agree with remington. I wouldn't give up your thuddy thuddy for a 44 mag pistol round. If you want more smack I'd try a 45-70, staying with the lever gun action of course. The Marlin 1895 or 1895G is a good option to consider.

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Location: Southern Virginia
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What's your favorite brush gun?

Thanks to y'all for the posts. I have a like-new Model 94 Winchester that was made in 1965. It's in 32 Special. Been hangin' on to it for collector value, but if I can find some bullets for it, it may make a good brush gun. Used to have a 444 Marlin.....sold it like a fool.....

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Location: Pipestone, MN
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What's your favorite brush gun?

The .32 Special is a good one. Chances are you'll have to have your shop order in, but both ammo and bullet are available.

Dave

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brush gun

When considering different possible calibers, be sure to check out the 30-06 ballistics. An '06 loaded with 220gr leads vastly outperforms most of the calibers we all commonly consider as "brush guns".
30-06 is also available in lever action, and pump action rifles. That's what I went with after poring over ballistics. Kinda would have liked something more exotic, but just couldn't find a better performing caliber.

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Location: Right Side WA state
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What's your favorite brush gun?

Let me tell ya a story that might just shed some light on this issue.
My dad was a gunsmith who lived for ballistics, he studied them till the time of his death nearly a decade ago.
In the Mid 60’s a friend of mine was always touting the value his “brush” gun.
One day we went up into the mountains to do some scouting. Dad asked my friend, Dave, to bring along his brush gun and a hand full of ammo, saying he would be happy to pay of all the ammo he shot up. Dave brought his rifle and dad brought along a post with a 10x12 piece of paper attached to a backing of cardboard stapled to the top end of the post.
While out, we came across a small strip of vine maple, maybe a few feet across and reasonably thick. Dad said, “wait here”. He went to the other side of the thicket, put the post into the ground with the 10x12 paper facing us. He backed us up a mere 25 yds away and told Dave he would give him $5.00 (a tidy some for a young kid in those days) if he could put a one out of three bullets on the paper shooting through the thicket. Mind you the paper was quite visible through the brush and Dave was, at the very least, an average shot. The brush was thick enough that the bullets fired would very likely strike something on it's way to the paper. Good’ol Dave thought the $5.00 was as good as in his pocket. Dave shot 8 times and was finally able to nick the edge of the paper once. The cal of the rifle used is totally immaterial, he could have been using a 600 nitro express and the results would have likely been the same. Brush will deflect anything short of a Howitzer. Trying to shoot through it is a fools game that most often causes a miss or worse yet, wounded game that escapes. Better to have an accurate rifle where you have a decent chance of threading a bullet through openings than trying to power your way through it with a big, slow hunk of lead.
If you think this is hog wash, try it yourself.

Now, if by "gun to use around thick or semi thick cover", you are referring to a carbine style rifle that is easier to carry in the thick stuff, that’s different, but the caliber still will not make a bit of difference as long as it carries enough energy to make a clean kill at the distances you shoot.

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Location: Southern Virginia
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Re: brush gun
BruceW wrote:
When considering different possible calibers, be sure to check out the 30-06 ballistics. An '06 loaded with 220gr leads vastly outperforms most of the calibers we all commonly consider as "brush guns".
30-06 is also available in lever action, and pump action rifles. That's what I went with after poring over ballistics. Kinda would have liked something more exotic, but just couldn't find a better performing caliber.

Thanks. I have a nice '03 Springfield in '06(custom sporterized). Also own a Garand, but that thing weighs a ton. May just stick to the 870 Mag with tru-glo sights. I have rheumatoid arthritis, and it's been unusually cold here in Va. The wood heater seems to be my caliber preference at the moment, but thanks to all for the tips!

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