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What's the right action to take?

I mostly deer hunt the farms I hunt. If a bear happens to step out then I'll shoot him. But I don't strictly hunt bears during the 1 week season we have.
My question is, if you are deer hunting and a bear runs out being chased by someone's dogs, will you shhot the bear without consulting the bear hunters?

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Now that is an interesting

Now that is an interesting question that might just create some difference of opinions.   Some "depends" questions.  Are you on public land or private property?  If on private property are the bear hunters friends with the land owner?  If so, then I would talk to them about it first so there are no hard feelings or arguments that could jeopardize your ability to hunt the property.

Regardless of private or public, how fast is the bear running and can you make a clean shot?  If the bear is going to fast or if the dogs are in the way, then pass on the shot.

Now for the toughy.  Public, bear offers a clean shot with no chance of hitting a dog.  I think I take the shot.  There is no guarantee that the other hunters will get the bear and it is not their bear it is everyone's.  So take the shot, but be prepared for some grief about it.

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Let's see...this is a private

Let's see...this is a private farm in which the bear hunters do not know the land owner nor have permission to trespass to retrieve dogs or to hunt. So they have business being on the land.
The bear wasn't running as fast as any deer I have shot at the same distance. No problem with making a running shot. I wouldn't try a shot on an animal if I thought I would hit the pursuing dogs.

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I think our posts must have

I think our posts must have crossed in cyber space because it wasn't there when I posted mine.  Your post makes this an easy decision.  I'd shoot the bear, but be prepared for a confrontation with the dog hunters.  If they have no respect for someone else's private property and are willing to trespass then they are not likely to have respect for you and may threaten you with violence.  I'd shoot the bear, but watch my back when retrieving it.

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Maybe some background

Maybe some background information is needed here. All the bear hunters I know are the friendliest guys I know. They train and feed their dogs year round, along with expensive vet bills when a dog is wounded in a confrontation with a bayed bear. One thing to remember or understand is that someone needs to be close to the dogs when they bay the bear. If the dogs bay the bear on the ground, there's a good chance some of the dogs could be injured or killed.
Getting back to the generosity of the bear hunters I know, most times they are taking hunters who have never killed a bear. They love to see a "new" bear hunter kill a bear in front of their dogs, but I don't think they would be happy if an outsider shot a bear in front of the dogs.
Because I know they take "new" bear hunters with them on the majority of hunts, I wouldn't shoot a bear in front of their dogs without previously discussing it. Just my 2 cents.

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Because I know they take

Because I know they take "new" bear hunters with them on the majority of hunts, I wouldn't shoot a bear in front of their dogs without previously discussing it. Just my 2 cents

Well,  heck, why didnt you just say this in the first place :D  I don't think I can disagree with your logic and your respect for a new hunter Thumbs up

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Let's see if I was in a state

Let's see if I was in a state that you could chase them with dogs there would be a few factors that you would have to think about.  The first one is do you have a tag for a bear and is it in season.  The second one would be can you shoot a sow or is the tag just for a boar?  Here in Colorado most of this is a mute point since they can no longer chase bears with dogs but a sow with cubs is off limits and if it is being chased by dogs it would be hard to tell if she had any or not.  Also as CVC mentioned do you have a clean shot?  I have seen bears that are running through the trees and the chances for a shot are very slim so I doubt that I would chance a shot only to wound it and have to depend on the dogs to find it.  You may find yourself up against some mad dog owners. 

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Yeah, running bears with dogs

Yeah, running bears with dogs is how the majority of bear hunters pursue bears. There are a lot of places down east that can't be hunted without dogs because of the dense thickets the bears live in.
There are some hunters that sit in box stands situated over corn fields.
And no hunting over bait is allowed. That practice was abolished in the 70's when they started protecting the bear population in an effort to increase their numbers.
For residents and non-residents alike, every hunter that buys a biggame license gets 1 bear tag for the year. The tag is good for a boar or a sow. A sow with cubs under 50 lbs is off limits. Likewise, if the cubs are over 50 lbs, she's legal to take, although I wouldn't knowingly shoot a sow with cubs.
The farm I hunt that has bears on or around is mostly open crop land. The bear I saw was running across an open field. The dogs were some distance behind and not in danger of being shot.

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Hunting deer with dogs has

Hunting deer with dogs has been a big issue with lots of controversy in VA.  Part of the controversy stems from the fact that the dogs are allowed to "trespass" onto private property in pursuit of the deer.

What is the law in NC?  Is it controversial to use dogs to hunt bear there?

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That's a tough one for sure. 

That's a tough one for sure.  I guess if you are both legally there, then you could not be faulted for shooting it.  Just like if you were sitting in a stand, and some guys were doing a drive nearby.  If they pushed a big buck by your stand, would you not shoot it because it was being pushed by someone else?

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The deer drive analogy is a

The deer drive analogy is a good one.  It sounds like it is a close knit hunting community so it shouldn't be a problem.  The only other variable and it doesn't seem to apply here is the agressiveness and propensity towards violence of people today.  One may be right in their actions, they just need to weigh whether or not it is worth it sometimes.

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