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Patriate, I know pogo is not a man and sure is not as classy as a woman so how about we refer to pogo as a IT? So... it would be best for the forum if we all just ignored it's posts. could even be possible to ban the ip address that it sends from. because it hides from all of us by using a phony screen name it could even be a child without adult supervision. that would be even more of a reason to ban the ip address. Anyway this forum should be used to talk about our hunting, fishing and next planed adventure and not arguing with the likes of it. lets all use the easy button and ignore it.

I agree that his prescence has hurt this website. The point of his posts are not meant to educate, persuade or to offer a meaningful alternative point of view, but instead to irritate, harass and insult. Classic behavior of a troll. They pop up on many websites, but you're right, they are usually banned because of the negative effective on the website.

As far as the original topic here about Republican politicians having affairs, my thought is, yep, it is wrong and we need to get them out of office, but it is not limited to one party.

Look at John Kennedy, Ted Kennedy, Bill Clinton and John Edwards. Of course, while the Dems point fingers at the Republican politicians that have had affairs, they continue to embrace Kennedy and Clinton.

My advice is just not to feed the troll.

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I have a great idea, this is a HUNTING AND OUTDOORS SITE get rid of this politics forum and all the idiots will go with it. I would much rather come in after a day at work and see a pic of a elk, deer or even a gopher that someone got than turn on the computer to see another post by dumb a$$ again. makes me not even want to check the site and I am a potential advertiser here. I'm sure others feel the same. As a business it would be much better for this site to be rid of the people whe are constantly trying to cause trouble. "It" would be on the top of the list.

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Bud, getting rid of the political forum does not stop people from talking about politics. One of the reasons that a forum grows is due to requests from members for specific forums. If we did not have a politics section, people would talk about it in other areas. We'd rather keep it separate, then folks can choose not to visit that specific forum.

The political forum was originally added, since there are many political topics that are of interest to hunters; such as 2nd amendment rights, new laws and regs as they would pertain to outdoorsmen, etc.

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Ditto. I've seen exactly what the moderator's talking about. When I first started coming here, there was a lot more bleedover and off-topic discussions in the hunting threads until they created the politics section.

If you dig through the other subject areas, Bud, you'll find they stick to hunting topics. The political forum is a place to blow off steam, but with a couple exceptions those of us who post in politics also use the other threads -- and stick to business when we're there. Over the years I've found this site to offer a wealth of information. In particular, info gleaned from other hunters on this site has been directly responsible for a lot of what I know about black bear hunting. Hanging around here is a lot like sitting around the woodstove at the hardware store, and the folks on this forum have definitely made me a better hunter. There's a lot of people that come and go, but there's a core group that've been here a few years that have become pretty tight -- as witnessed by the shared grief when we recently lost Hammer1.

The politics thread is currently a little crazy, but hopefully that'll be back under control soon. I for one like your no-nonsense style, and I'm sure your expertise will be a great addition to the forum. I really hope you stick around.

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Bud wrote:
Patriate, I know pogo is not a man and sure is not as classy as a woman so how about we refer to pogo as a IT? So... it would be best for the forum if we all just ignored it's posts. could even be possible to ban the ip address that it sends from. because it hides from all of us by using a phony screen name it could even be a child without adult supervision. that would be even more of a reason to ban the ip address. Anyway this forum should be used to talk about our hunting, fishing and next planed adventure and not arguing with the likes of it. lets all use the easy button and ignore it.

A another gem from the guy who said this, "There would be no Obama bumper sticker in my driveway and no wife who thought it was o.k. in my house. there would be NO exceptions. you were way to nice.".

So, what would you do if your wife had the audacity to have a differing viewpoint then yours bud??? A swift backhand to show her who's boss.

Maybe you're the one with a learning disability as there's only about fifty different categories of forums where not a peep of politics is talked about. But, you made the choice to click on this one and then cry about it like a two year old.

Your post above is a shining example of hypocrisy in action it goes way over the line of immature BS and if it was from me or pango the crying could be heard from hear to MT. But, since it's in agreement with the majority here it's applauded.

You sure type a tough game there bud.

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SoKo, you can be a democrat if you want. I don't care a bit. if you want to hand over you 2nd amendment rights, feel free to do so. I will not, there will be no Obama sticker in my driveway and my wife feels just as strongly about it as I do if you must know. and yes I talk a tough game, it is a lot tougher when a Obama sticker comes down the driveway. they asked to leave. It is my home and I get to make ALL the rules there. On this forum you can have any opinion you want I don't care, it seems you may be a hunter. I have not seen where you go out of your way to intentionaly try to inflame everyone else here. There are others that do and it would seem that they are not hunters. them are the ones that I think sould be removed from the forum.

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On handing over gun rights Bud, we have a Dem President and controlled Congress. In a few months after Obama's been in office a year I'll open a thread where we can discuss guns taken away from us. I plan on doing that every years while Dems are in control. Not because I think some extremist people on the left don't have a desire for strict gun control, but rather the amount of reasonable people on the right and left aint gonna let it happen, even with a Dem controlled Gov.

Second point. Yes, I see how you are the master of your domain and how things roll at your place. That's fine we all have that right as long as we don't take it to an extreme and hurt people who don't agree with us. I will point out that I don't conduct myself in that manner. If a cleaning lady showed up at my house and happened to have a "Ann Coulter is my Hero" sticker on her car, I might personally think she's a moron, but if she cleaned my house like a champ and didn't spout off about politics in my house she'd get the job.

Another example my best bud and lifting partner is an Evangelical Repub who voted for Bush and Mccain. Now we disagree vehemently over certain political viewpoints but there are many other aspects of our friendship and activities that we agree on that our friendship is strong. He's not the type to put bumper stickers on his vehicle period (nor am I) but if he did show up with a "I heart Rush" sticker or T-shirt to my house I'd make fun of him for awhile and then we'd get down to whatever business we had at hand. I sure as hell wouldn't get all macho and run down the driveway ready to yell like an idiot or slug him or anyone else who had a bumper sticker.

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I agree that his prescence has hurt this website. The point of his posts are not meant to educate, persuade or to offer a meaningful alternative point of view, but instead to irritate, harass and insult.

While I agree Mr. Pangolin has few manners and less class a politics forum is just that. Politics. We aren't talking guns or hunting and opinions are not only going to differ but clash. This, while sometimes infuriating is as this country should be. It was what our founding fathers wanted for us and future generations. While I dislike pangolin almost as much as he dislikes me I will defend his right to have his say here or anywhere else. SocoKhunter has allways been a gentleman despite our some what heated disagreements and as such I give him and his views a bit more respect.

We should disagree and I applaud anyone who goes against the majority as do Soco and pangolin on this webite. As Voltair once said, " I may disagree with what you say but I will defend to the death your right to say it". To defend our own constitutional rights and subvert someone else's is the ultimate hypocrasy. As for hurting this website I disagree. With all the conservatives here if we didn't have a pangolin, we'd have to make one up. I do wish he'd be more respectful but overall he keeps it lively here.

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I respect your point, but as I pondered this I couldn't help but think about the protestors standing up in the Senate yelling about Sotomayor. Your position, while noble, has limits. Diversity of opinion may be the lifeblood of democracy, but diversity without civility is simply anarchy.

On a side note, it's interesting you brought up Voltaire. Here's another one of his that's timely:

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

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expatriate wrote:
I respect your point, but as I pondered this I couldn't help but think about the protestors standing up in the Senate yelling about Sotomayor. Your position, while noble, has limits. Diversity of opinion may be the lifeblood of democracy, but diversity without civility is simply anarchy.

On a side note, it's interesting you brought up Voltaire. Here's another one of his that's timely:

"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."

Hey good one expat, as we saw Bush and company was quite successful in regard to that last one. neener!

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