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What would you do?

I was out hunting with my buddy on my family farm. We have been practicing QDM on this property for a number of years now and have several nice shooter. I only made a couple of my shooters off limits to my buddy. At 6:45 this evening he sends me a text and says he shot a little 1 12 yr old 4 point. Needless to say I was upset. He knows we DO NOT shoot ant buck under at least 3 1/2 yrs old and preferably 4 1/2 yrs old and above. I let him know I was unhappy but we are like best friends so I will allow him to continue to hunt. He knew the rules and broke them anyways. Matter of fact he told me he will not shoot any bucks under 150". I feel our friendship is more important than the deer but I think next year I may tell him my Uncle said no more hunting on the farm except family.

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The problem that I see is

The problem that I see is that you buddy knew what the rules were and chose not to follow them. I would tell him flat out that he is no longer welcomed to hunt on the farm and wouldn't blow him off by telling him that someone else made the decision.

If he is a buddy that would let a friendship go because of something that he caused then he isn't much of a buddy.

I actually have a couple of friends that I'll never take hunting again for about the same reason.  I took them into areas that held a lot of elk and you would have no problems getting one or two every day that you went in there.  The problem came up the following year when they brought all their friends into the area to hunt it.  Granted it was public ground and they were entitled to hunt it but they never would of known about the area if I hadn't shown one of my friends first.   

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your land...your call

Well...he blatantly ignored your camps rules; but he's your friend and obviously doesn't get a hoot about QDM and is just as happy with a filled tag as a set of antlers. What would I do...dunno. It depends on the friend.

What you need to decide is: is the friendship in question is worth more than a set of antlers? Only you can answer that.

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Since he is your "best

Since he is your "best friend" I would simply tell your friend that he blatently broke the rule on QDM and thus if he cannot abide by the rule he is no longer able to hunt the area. BUT if he from now on can abide by the rule plus not shoot those specific deer singled out then and only then may he return to this great hunting area. If he blows it a second time then he is not a friend. It is too bad your friend blew it - it sounds like he got nervous or something and made a poor decision.

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Hmmm

I would be interested to know what your friend's hunting experience was.  The reason I say this, and I am going to be a little self incriminating here, is my own personal experience.  I hunted two seasons on my own (one for BTs in WA state and two days for WT in IN over Thanksgiving leave) prior to getting an offer to hunt private land in Eastern WA for WTs.  I took the offer as it was a free trip and the big woods.  Long story short is that I shot a 1.5 year old 6 pt buck.  Here were MY reasons: 1) It was my first deer and WA is buck only where I was hunting 2) Although the trip was free, my out of state license was a ridiculous $400+  3)  I really wanted some meat for the freezer.  I would definitely be upset with him violating your rules, but maybe he doesn't get the importance of them to you.  I am not a trophy hunter in any sense of the word.  I give try to give deer a chance to mature before I take them but if it is the last day fo the season and a 2 yr old pops out...I am putting meat in the freezer.  Just my thoughts.

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The thing that baffles me

The thing that baffles me about this whole situation is he is an experienced hunter and he definitely knows what a mature buck is. He hunts on other properties that have similar rules and to my knowledge he has always followed them.

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Here is a picture of the

Here is a picture of the buck.

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There is no identification

There is no identification problem there as that is plainly a 1.5 year old.

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If he intentionally broke the

If he intentionally broke the rules, then no more hunting on that land.  I am new at hunting, but when I hunt on a friend's property I ask where he doesn't want me to go, and then I don't go there.  Besides abiding by a friend's request, I value the opportunity to hunt that property. 

He said it was intentional?  and not an accident / mis identification?