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What type of Ammo for a Chance of a lifetime Bull?

I drew a wonderful unit outside of Estes Park for late season. There is a chance for a big Bull and I want to make sure I put it down if I hit it. I am shooting Remington Core-Lock 180 grain and I have had no problems with Deer and Cows/small bulls but it has been suggessted that I should look at Federal Noslar Particians and TSX loads. Any suggestions? Has anyone shot these loads?

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What type of Ammo for a Chance of a lifetime Bull?

I've used Nosler Partitons for years and never had a problem with them. Not sure which caliber you're using but i suspect a 30-06 or 300mag? i would also try the accubond & see which one shoots the best in your rifle, let it decide. You might also try the new bonded corelokt, the accuracy is pretty good in my 30-06.

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Welcome to the site.

Oh the power of suggestion. Other than that, what is it that makes you loose confidence in the 180 gr core-lock load? If it is a 30-06 your using, that load should do you fine. The magic comes with confidence in the load your using and your ability to place the bullet. Kinda late in the game to be shoping around for a new load. We3re I you, I'd stick with what has been working for me. Big bulls are killed by the same thing little bulls are killed by. Good bullet's well placed. The 180 gr core-lock is a good bullet.

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Don Fischer wrote:
Welcome to the site.

Oh the power of suggestion. Other than that, what is it that makes you loose confidence in the 180 gr core-lock load? If it is a 30-06 your using, that load should do you fine. The magic comes with confidence in the load your using and your ability to place the bullet. Kinda late in the game to be shoping around for a new load. We3re I you, I'd stick with what has been working for me. Big bulls are killed by the same thing little bulls are killed by. Good bullet's well placed. The 180 gr core-lock is a good bullet.

This was said perfect.... :\:D/ I use a .270 winchester to hunt everything. Well everything I have hunted so far I have used a .270. 2 years ago I killed a 350+ bull at around 250 and it fell right in its tracks dead instantly.

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I used to shoot core lock bullets in my 30-06 and quit using them because of the lack of preformance. I shoot an 06 for a reason I'm not a good tracker and the last year I shot core locks I shot a white tailed buck perfectly behind the front should and it ran appr. 75 yrds before falling in a heap. The same weekend I shot a coyote behind the front shoulder and it ran about 100 yrds before falling in a heap. I switched to nosler accubonds 180 gr and shoot a 340 class bull elk at 150 yrds and dropped him like he had been hit over the head with a hammer. Nosler is what you want to shoot.

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Welcome to the site Bull Buster,

Those core-lock's that you didn't like are much like the Nosler Accubond. In that both are cup and core bullets. The difference in the two is that the Nosler core is bonded to the cup. On an animal the size of a deer or coyote, if you were using a 180gr bullet, it may have simply been to heavy. If so what probably happened was that the bullet failed to open well, kinda like shooting a pencil thru the animal. It will kill the animal but unless the CNS is hit, maybe no so dramatic. I suspect that if you had shot the deer and the coyote with the 180 gr accubond in the same spot, the results would have been similar.

In standard 30 cal cartridges, most people like 150 and 165 gr bullets for deer, they open with less restence. That due in part to the increased velocity of the lighter bullet's. There is of course nothing wrong, that I know of, with the accubond bullet's. The closest I've ever come to them was the old Speer Hot Core bullets. I like the idea of bonded cores and would use them now except I don't want to pay for them. In standard velocity cartridge's, the cup and core bullet's, when properly chosen are remarkable and cheap!

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I was using 150 gr core locks and both animals I shot were right in the 200 yrd range. Maybe I didn't hit any bone? That was just my luck with them. Brad

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The partition, accubond, or trophy bonded bear claw, or triple shock would all be fine for elk.

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