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Bullet choice... the original question...

I think a lot of comments got mixed up on this thread... and the Original question of which would be the best bullet choice for His 30-06.

No one including myself advocated or endorsed shooting a 130# max wt. animal out to 400; However the differences in Drop (even with elevation) between a 150 gr bullet and a 180 are great... it isn't whether the bullet size is substancial or not for Antelope... because both will kill the animal Dead...

In sighting in the bullet say 1.5 inches high at 100 and then shooting at various ranges from 100 to 200 and then out to 300 the 150, 165, and 180 have a large difference in regards to pull of gravity. The effective range of each depends on how much elevation is given when sighting in. The (drop) of the bullet in practical hunting terms need to be looked at and tried on the range before Picking a bullet to do what you want it to.

I believe that a person needs to actually go out to the range with one gun... all three boxes of shells spoken about here and shoot at the same target, same yardage etc... with all three bullet weights looking at the different points of impact when shooting at 100,200 and 300 yards befor giving another reply to this question.

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What size round for my .30-06?

While there may be a few armchair respondants here, I believe that the vast majority on this forum do hunt and shoot regularly. Many posters here have many years experience hunting and shooting. I myself have 22+ years of shooting regularly rifle, pistol, and shotgun. 20 years of that is hunting experience. Not a lot compared to some, but it's something I can use as credability for my feedback here, and that experience helps me to sift through and determine who the few BS'ers are. lol

I agree with you that one needs to take various bullet weight and shoot them a various ranges to actually see what their rifle will do.

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Re: What size round for my .30-06?
NorthernMIHunter wrote:
Hello i will be hunting antelope and mule deer in the fall of 2007. I will be using my .30-06 i was wondering what everybody would recommend for a factory load to use. Any help would be greatly appreciated. thanks.

330-trapper, that's an awful wide open question and a lot more could be said in answer's. Antelope are typically killed at longer ranges than deer but the long shots mentioned are a matter of choice, not need.

Re-read fuzzybears post. He say's the 150, 165 or 180 gr load that shoots best. Pretty sound advice!

Western hunter once again offers good advice and I've enough experience to believe he has the experience to give it.

147grains post points out the flaw in the origional question. A short question requiring a longer answer complete with an explaination.

Hiker was right to the point and answered the question at face value. But were the question asked, this guy would also have ansewred more.

I have been watching these guy's for quite awhile and while at times I might disagree, these guy's on this site, including some that didn't answer, give sound advice to question asker's. Based on what they find prudent rather than the stroke your ego and gee-whiz stuff I see on other site's. Read again the origional question, it certainly appears that this is a first time antelope hunter doesn't it. His question seemed genunine. To some it may have seemed foolish. He deserved the best most complete answer we could give him.

In short, these guy's are good and you are out of line! Shame on You!

Need to add one more point. You claim zeroing on 1 1/2" hight at 100yds.........have you ever hunted antelope? That is a poor way to zero a long range cartridge. Ask and it shall be answered. I think I'm a bit miffed. These guy's are not "armchair hunter's". Good answer's you guy's! Thumbs up

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I was just playing with favourite site: http://www.federalcartridge.com/ballistics/Ammo_Search.aspx

and imagine this, The difference in bullet drop at 400 yard, between the 150 grainers and the 180 grainers(sighted in for 200 yard) is around FOUR iches and the 165 ers somewhere in between.
One comparision between the same 150s and 165 s was around an inch and a half difference at 400 yards.
I think I'd be inclined to go with the 165 gr bullet.

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And we hear from another good one. But he shoots a 270 and lives in Canada so we forgive him. Hey Hammer, how ya doing.

I just got home and I was going to run that stuff thru my ballistic calculator but seem's no need, ya beat me to it. Sounds about right tho. The difference at 400yds between the superzappers and standard cartridges just isn't that much. Where to superzappers start to shine is well beyond the 400 yard mark. Most us old guy'ss can't see that far anymore. To much TV while sitting in our arm chairs! Yes

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Hi, I'm doing just great Don.
My computer, lazy-boy chair and TV are all in my den. Not much exercise here.

Last week(Sept 12th) your Secretary of State came to visit us and the rifle range is about nine miles from where she was staying. The Secret Service and RCMP VIP Security came to the range and no-one with a 270 was permitted to shoot.

Now, what does that tell ya !

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Hey man, ignor them. Come on out and you can shoot all ya want, even that 270! Wave Yes Thumbs up

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What size round for my .30-06?

NorthernMiHunter... is that Michigan??? Fine... if everyone on this thread so far is Right, prudent, honest, fair and also perfectly correct... than I guess I should just leave this site which seems to be too tight a group of guys to accept an outside view... I was just joining in with my personal views just like all of you were doing... and to answer your question I have hunted Antelope since I was 14, and I'm now 41...

I'll be leaving for Wyoming in 6 days.. so I am very qualified to give long range shooting advice... and no matter what anyone says, the 180 grain bullet out of the -06 is not the best bullet for Antelope... and you should quit looking up information in a book or on a chart and go out to the range with the three ... and then tell me the actual drop between the different grain bullets from that caliber... you all know that printed speeds and company listed ballistics etc... are just that... listed information from the companies to paint their bullets in the best light... the actual drop is far greater... before you go bad mouthing a person who is New, and just trying to actually help the first time lope hunter... why don't you re-read my post and look at it in a different non-defensive light...

I didn't mean to offend anyone... just stated it clearly as I believe, that the shooter is much better off on lopes, and distance with the 150 grain bullet...

Sorry to interupt

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330Trapper:
You're not offending me in the least. I read, digest and consider ALL responses It's all a part of growing up.
I had to check the difference in a 100gr bullet out of a 25.06 and a 165 grainer(same bullet type) out of the 06 andat 400 yard it is 5 inches. Surprisingly winddrift is the same.
Lots of folks here with a lot more experience than me. i.e. Don Fischer. He worked on the assembly line when the first 30.06 was produced Big smile

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Thanks for the plug buddy! I jush about had this cheerleader from Oregon State convinced I was 25! Brick Wall,)

Oh, I'm sorry, it's not lush,,,,,,,jush, it's just! She told me that! See how your affecting my higher education! Yes

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