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i'm new to hunting and I was wondering, what rifle should i get? I'm leaning towards a 30-06. Does it have alot of recoil? Beacause im a small kid. And if it does have said recoil can that be reduced greatly by a recoil pad and a barrel deresonator? Your help would be greatly apprreciated.

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There are several factors in Recoil....One is the weight of the firearm...Another is the load ( bullet weight i.e. a 180 grain verses a 150 grain) Hold form and many others. Yes a good recoil pad would aid in reduction of FELT recoil such as the Limbsaver pads. One thing needed for concideration is what are you going to be hunting? The 30.06 is a fantastic all around cartridge with the ability to take any north american big game animal that walks. But if all you are going to hunt is say wild boar then its not needed. Nor is it needed for deer. If the largest game you plan to b hunting is whitetail deer then a nice 7mm.08 is the perfect mojo. Very little recoil with massive knockdown with the proper loads. Tell us a little more as far as what you are planning to hunt and im sure any of us would be more than happy to assist you in choosing your weapon...And welcome to BGH and the world of hunting!!

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I agree, anything in the 308 cartridge chambering. 308, 7-08 and even the 243. The 308 win would deliver almost comparable game taking effects as the 30-06 without all the recoil. Depending on how small framed you are I would stay away from the 30-06 until maybe later in life. Nothing worse than having a gun you are afraid to shoot because of recoil. You shouldnt have to put a muzzle brake on a hunting rifle. The 243 is an awesome round and has little recoil and will take any deer out to 200-250 yards. Ammo for both the 308 and 243 is readily available and very resonable on the wallet. Try and find someone in your area that has some different calibers and try them out. Some gun shops will even let you shoot the used guns in their ranges so you can have an idea how much or little you like the gun. This is exciting and fun to look for rifles so dont make any impulse decisions. Enjoy the "hunt" for a good rifle that you will be able to hunt with enjoyably. And dont forget not to cheat yourself on the optics. Have fun and welcome.

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25.06 is another calibre to give consideration too if you find yourseld recoil sensative, but saying that the only way to know for sure is to try a 30.06 yourself.
I'd just never bet on how recoil wil affect a person because of their size, I ve seen some pretty small folks packin some pretty serious iron.

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As was mentioned in a previous post. What you plan on hunting may be helpful in a suggestion.
For big game in North America, I've tried just about every caliber from the 243 to the 340 and always end up with a 270 or a 30 cal of some variety.
Considering recoil. If you find a rifle you like (comfortable and manageable) you'll learn to shoot it. Beside all else. When you squeeze the trigger on a taggable quarry. You won't even notice the recoil because all your concentration will be on the target and getting a good hit.

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Young man,

Welcome to the site!

This is my second post, I deleted the first as I did a short rant then wrote a novel length reply! Now I've eaten breakfast and am having coffee.

Your not looking for a rifle, your looking for a cartridge! A cartridge is a brass case containing a primer, bullet and powder. It generally comforms to the chamber of the rifle you are shooting.

A rifle is composed of a handle generally called a stock. Only the swamp monster calls it a handle and it gives me the vapors! It also has a barrel into which the chamber is bored, which contains the cartridge and an action consisting of a trigger group, magazine well of some type and a bolt containing a fireing pin which loads the cartridge into the chamber and locks it there, then, at your leisure, fires the thing, sending the bullet on it's way.

The rifle and the cartridge are two entirely different items that are quite commonly confused. Far to many concider that a cartridge is a rifle. It is not! Had you not mentioned 30-06 in your post, you would be hearing about rifles with little or no reguard to cartridges.

The rant is over by this "beef cake" or "fat old man" depending if your talking to the swamp monster or the grandkids!

If what you really want is a 30-06, there's ways to do it. It's called a semi-auto gas operated rifle. What will happen is that the rifle will bleed off some of the gas created on fireing to operate the action in effect lessing recoil. You may lose some degree of acuracy but little in the way of hunting accuracy.

The same semi-auto can be had in 308 which is so similar to the 30-06, you'll never know the difference.

Another way to control the recoil of a 30-06 is thru managed recoil loads which reduce your 30-06 to something more like the 7mm-08 which will work very well itself. I think you not only need to tell us what your going to be hunting but what kind of rifle action you would prefer.

When you think of game to hunt, be realistic to get the best answer. You may indeed desire to hunt elk but although I understand Penn has a season now, you'll not likely draw it nor are you ready for it. The time will come when your not a small kid anymore and will have more money to spend. Then another rifle would be an option for you. Here's the deal, if you can afford to go to some far off place to shoot some great animal, the cost of a rifle is nothing!

Therefor, I would guess that what your looking for is a deer rifle,,,,,,,and maybe the odd woodchuck? This is where it get's confussing as there are so many different cartridges and none really wrong. They will all have recoil and one man's perception of recoil might be different than another's. I know of guy's that say a 375 H&H mag just gives a gentle shove. Nothing that burns that much powder and fires that big a bullet could be described as "gentle".

You'd need to help us out here a bit with the type action you'd like to have.

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go with the 30-06. recoil isnt that bad...nothing you cant get used it . its probably the best all around caliber...hope this helps Thumbs up

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Don,
He is in PA so therefore, unless he plans to hunt out of state, a semi would be illegal to hunt with. So he is then limited to a bolt, lever, pump, or single shot.

Wonksy,
The 30.06 in SOME rifles have a helluva kick and in some they dont. The problem alot of new shooters experience is recoil fear. They pick up a firearm that they just arent ready to handle and from then on will have the jumps from it forever. I know I had a old Rem pump in 30.06 that damn near knock ME down and Im 6' 3" 240 pounds. Never shot a harder kicking weapon in my life sept for a couple 416 rig's and a 375 h&h . Yet I shot a friends Browning Auto loader and it was almost as light a recoil as my 270. Its all about the loads and the rifles themselves. you take a 6 pound Tika bolt in 30.06 and shoot it its gonna hurt...Take a 8 pound rem 700 cdl and its not gonna hurt so much because of that extra 2 pounds. Don's advise on the managed recoil loads is spot on when it comes to practicing. But I wouldnt recommend them for hunting myself but thats just my own opinion.

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i know all about recoil. my 6 1/2 lb stainless stalker 300 wsm kicks like a dam mule Laugh Laugh Laugh

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Cam,

You are right! I forgot all about that stupid law there. Well now I'm into the 308 class of rifles.

What ever anyone might think of the recoil of the 30-06, it will recoil more than a 308 and this young man mentioned recoil.

Now I'd go for the 260 Rem of the 7mm-08, neither of which I've owned. But I have owned a couple 7x57's and three 6.5x55's and recoil should be about the same. 260 ammo might be a problem down the raod, good reason to start reloading! Thumbs up

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what about the 243 and the 25-06. havent heard much on them Thumbs up

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