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what rifle on first pig hunt this year?

They also can absorb copious amounts of lead ..

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Also, their testosterone and adrenaline levels really spike through the roof after they are injured. This can give them the ability to run hundreds of yards with busted hearts, broken legs and shoulders, and yes, pierced lungs. Another reason PH's carry big sticks.

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If you want to talk about cape buffalo then start it up in the Africa forum. Otherwise get back to shootin' pigs or this will be closed.

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I tried to do that a little while back, but some clarification was necessary! LOL!! OK -- back to hog killin'!

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Redrider, I apologize, but he brought up this claim of killing a "cape buffalo" with a 444 out of no where. Frankly, I couldn't leave that alone.

As far as pigs go, the 444 marlin is a good one, but I prefer the 45/70 because of it's greater loading versatility. With the lever evolution bullets, you can get the 45/70 to shoot nearly as flat as the 444.

The best solution however, is to load down a 458 Lott or win mag to shoot some hot 45/70 loads... they make great pig killers. Yes

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Why load the Lott down? In full-tilt form, it'll put the serious smack-down on hogs! I've taken a few with my old Lott......... Laugh

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Just keepin' the peace. We all know insults and foul mouthin' won't work around here Thumbs up

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Peeople need to get their facts strait on this before they speak out about sumpthin' .. End of subject for me on the buff ..

Pigs with Lotts and WinMags are fun , full power loads .. sure Thumbs up

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I just had this same conversation on the African hunting forum with cam69conv, ans when he showed me the "CAPE BUFFALO" it was evident he had shot a Philappino water buffalo, and not a very large one, But I see here he was made aware it wasn't a Cape Buffalo in this string, as early as 15th of Oct, yet he was still saying it was a cape Buffalo on the Africa forum, as of day before yesterday, the 30th of Oct. Think IMO, he is just making a mistake, and is not well versed enough on Africa to make the judgements he needs! I think he honestly believes what he posts about the 444, but I hope he never tries to put it into practice on a real old DUGGABOY Bull, because my fear is he will get a lesson in short order, one he may not like! Still I think he is basiclly a good guy, just young! eye roll

Oh well, the subject is shooting wild hogs, and the origenal poster wants to shoot them with his 470NE double rifle. Well, the 470NE will do far less meat damage than most of the hotrock rifles people use for hogs. The bullets made in the .475 dia, are tough as concrete, and dont open at all, and drop hogs like the world was jerked out from under them! Hog hunting is very good practice for your big bore double rifles, and no rifle is better designed for hog hunting. It is easy to do a double tap on them, with a right, and a left taking two hogs. Several double taps are done every outing at the ranch.

We hunt hogs twice a year at a 120,000 acre low fence ranch in Texas on a DRSS get together, and we shoot hogs with everything fron little 8mm double rifles to 577NE doubles, and the meat is fine. The Club I mentioned is the DRSS (Double Rifle Shooter's Society) formed by me a few years ago, and it now has members world wide. We even have a new member in Moskow Russia, who is trying to start a new chapter there. We have members in France, and a chapter in RSA (Rebublic of South Africa) as well as many states, in the USA, and provences in Canada. These hunts are so we can use our double rifles between trips to better suited places for their use. Like myself, there are many members who hunt exclsively with double rifles for everything, but hogs get the biggest amount of fun shooting.

I shoot doubles on hogs chambered for 8X57JR, 9.3X74R, 45-70, 500/450#1 express, 458RCBS, 470NE, 577NE, 58 cal Muzzleloading double, and all are fine for shooting hogs, and none of them are meat eaters! The last trip to the ranch 8 shooters killed 13 hogs on the first hunt, the first afternoon. Smallest was 75 lbs, and the largest was 278 lbs,weighed, and by the time the three day hunt was over the count had moved up to 19 hogs amoung 21 hunters on that club get together!

So, My friend, if you want to hunt hogs with your 470NE, do it! you wont be sorry you did, and when you get in front of a REAL cape Buffalo, the practice will be very valuable, if the first shot doesn't sort him out! More often than not the first shot won't take the wind out of his sails! Practice re-loading quickly, without fumbeling the rounds! Thumbs up

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Back to the question. It is better to use "too big of a gun" than one not big enough. With that being said, most people can't shoot large caliber/hard kicking guns because they don't shoot them enough...so I think it is a good idea to hunt hogs with them. All off the guns listed would give you good result. The 470 Nitro, 416 Rem, and 375 H&H with standard bullets (i.e. very tough bullets made for thick skin African game) should work well and will not expand enough to "rip the living crap" out of the hog. I think these guns will not do as much damage as 7mm to 338 caliber magnums. Most of the time, major meat damage is done by very high velocity expanding bullets. For the 35 Whelen I would use a 225-250gr premium bullet like, Nosler Partion, Branes X, Hornady InterBond or Speer Grand Slam. Can you post result after you shoot some hogs with those big guns and we can see if our predictions are correct?

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