I ordered a TC black diamond with a camo stock last week. I am still waiting for it to get here. I found it on bass pro for $199. It was about $350 everywhere else. This is going to be my first muzzleloader so I can't give advice about the ones that you asked about. I just wanted to suggest that you check bass pro for prices on the gun you decide to get. They had some other good deals as well.
wheres the the competion whats the joy of getting 200 yards from a big bull screaming at you . i hunted with my muzzle loader this september i was as close as 30 feet to many bulls they were screaming at me now thats a feeling makes your hair stand up.i spent 7 days hunting now if i had a inline hunt would of been over in 2 hours not my idea of a hunt or an adventure i dont consider them in my class
Every year my Pro-Staff and I head to the woods to hunt the old wise Tom. We travel thousands of miles covering numerous states hunting these old guys. Lots of times we end up hunting public lands or private property that have been hunted already. That’s the last thing you want to hear when you just traveled 6 hours that someone else has already hunted the property. We had to come up with a game plan and one real fast.
The first thing we did was ask the farmer were they usually see the birds in...