I ordered a TC black diamond with a camo stock last week. I am still waiting for it to get here. I found it on bass pro for $199. It was about $350 everywhere else. This is going to be my first muzzleloader so I can't give advice about the ones that you asked about. I just wanted to suggest that you check bass pro for prices on the gun you decide to get. They had some other good deals as well.
wheres the the competion whats the joy of getting 200 yards from a big bull screaming at you . i hunted with my muzzle loader this september i was as close as 30 feet to many bulls they were screaming at me now thats a feeling makes your hair stand up.i spent 7 days hunting now if i had a inline hunt would of been over in 2 hours not my idea of a hunt or an adventure i dont consider them in my class
Hinge-cutting serves several purposes in regard to improving both whitetail habitat and your hunting experience. There are two main types of hinge cuts including a cut for screening and funnels and a cut for bedding. Hinge cuts for screening and funnels should be done somewhere between the knee and waist to block a deer's vision as well as block a travel path. Hinge cuts for bedding should be done around chest high so that there is room for a deer to bed underneath.