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What is "Enough Gun"?

I'll take something appropriate in 30 cal.

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67L48:
I'll let you in on a little secret which I swore I would not reveal on the Internet. Before the ripe age of 16 years, I shot and killed five moose with nothing more than a 22 and 22long ammo( not LR, long rifle )and if memory served me right the farthest shot was about 75 yards.
A moose is the easiest animal to kill and find, no exception. Just because it may weight 1000 plus pounds, doesn't require any special firearm, in fact, requires a lot less.
Now if moose got tougher in the past 45 years, and of course can be documented, I will most humbly retract the aforementioned comment

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I've met A LOT of people I've met up in AK who shoot moose year after year (and I've certainly seen a large share of the state) with pretty ordinary cartridges.

Maybe we've all been duped by the gun writers whose livelihood is derived from giving good press to new rifles and cartridges.

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Hammer1 wrote:
67L48:
I'll let you in on a little secret which I swore I would not reveal on the Internet. Before the ripe age of 16 years, I shot and killed five moose with nothing more than a 22 and 22long ammo( not LR, long rifle )

I suppose that shouldn't surprise anyone. I've heard that no caliber has taken more big game in NA than the .22. I'm sure that's probably true.

I think people get worried because they occasionally lose game that's been shot. For example, my father-in-law shot an elk with his .270 three years ago. We followed the blood trail for a couple of hours. The trail ended with a patch of brush that looked like had been sprayed with about a gallon of blood. It was brutal. Between that gruesome finale and the long trail we had followed, I was convinced that there must not be any more blood left in that elk. Yet, that elk was gone. There was no more trail. We looked for another 2 hours in that area and saw neither elk nor blood trail. Had to leave due to darkness. Came back the next morning and, nothing but the blood soaked brush. To this day, I'm convinced that that elk was medi-vac'ed out of the woods that day. smile.

Anyway, to make a short story long, I think a lot of people have similar stories. Big game (elk) escaped after being shot by a "small" caliber like .260, 7mm, .270, and .30-06. If an 800 lb elk can run away with a .270 round in it, then wouldn't a 1,200 lb moose laugh at a .270? Thus, a 300 mag or larger is used on moose. Not sure if that logic is sound or not, but I think it's the thought process most people I know tend to follow.

With that said, you could probably set up a nice varminter rifle in .22-250 or even a .17. Big bull barrel and a tactical scope. Down a moose from 400 yards. ;-)

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What is "Enough Gun"?

Enough gun is a tough question because the answer relies on several variables. I think the variables are:

1.) Maximum shot distance.

2.) Marksmanship.

3.) Bullet selection.

4.) Shoot placement. Somewhat related to 2....

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But here's the question, would that moose have died from the 300 as well? He wasn't hit in the vitals obviously and maybe the 300 wouildn't have done it either? I've seen some big animals hit with bigger than average rifles that have done the same thing. Sometimes bigger does it, sometimes not. But the fact remains: shot placement is everything (with a projectile of proper speed and weight to penetrate and damage of course).

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living in wisconsin, i have taken game from the two extremes (squirrel and bear) and just about everything in between using one gun: the Mossberg 500 12 gauge pump. Throw some birdshot in the chamber and go shoot some small game or some birds. Throw some buck in the chamber and defend your home or shoot some coyotes. Or put a 350+ grain slug in it and shoot it at 2000 feet per second. The shotgun is amazingly versitile, and i would trust it to handle anything inside 100 yards. Beyond that, get yourself a rifle with a good ballistic coefficient.